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re: Alvin Gnetry is not a good coach
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:03 am to CocoLoco
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:03 am to CocoLoco
quote:I agree. To me, i've come around to just signing Anderson, regardless of the price. He's too good, especially if we manage to put real players around him and AD. We're gonna move him or let him go, then watch him be awesome for a better team.
We need high IQ two-way players
AD - obvious keep
Jrue - I think he's a nice piece
Ryno - would love to keep the guy but will cost too much
Basically everyone else can go, including Gentry
We have to attach any player we can to Asik's contract to get him out of here. I'd hate to trade Jrue just to get rid of a bad contract, but if it came down to it, do it.
Start from scratch with AD, Ryno, a couple of our decent role players, a lottery pick, and a bunch of cap space.
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:03 am to Let Me Take A Selfie
quote:
and if we're being honest Benson isn't a good owner
I wouldn't go that far
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:09 am to eyeran
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Whats wrong with it is we're gonna tank to draft a rotation player, and be on countdown for the "Davis wants out" tweet from Woj a few years from now.
Who cares?
If he's a pussy and wants to leave, you're trading a top 3 player in the league who is ~25 y/o. We will get a king's ransom
By that time we may have a competent FO, too
It's not the end of the world for this team, one way or another. But one thing is for certain, this current cast of characters from players to coach to GM isn't the answer
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:20 am to GynoSandberg
quote:Potentially 7 years of incompetence from an organization...and you'd have fans calling him a pussy for leaving.
Who cares?
If he's a pussy and wants to leave,
quote:Where'd I hear that before?
you're trading a top 3 player in the league who is ~25 y/o. We will get a king's ransom
We've lucked into two Hall Of Famers, back-to-back, since we've had a team. Think about that...
We blew it once. Now we're in year 4 of Davis, talking about blowing it up again
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:26 am to fightingtigers98
We have legitimately 3 2-way starters on this team.
AD, Jrue, and QPon.
Everyone else is too one-dimensional in a team with not enough multiple niche players.
You have no true threat from 3pt range outside of EG and Ryno. Issue is they are poor defenders although they give a ton of effort. Your average defenders in Gee and Cunningham can't knock down open 3s consistently at all.
Then, your combo guard and his backup are both low IQ players who try to get themselves going, but not setting up their own teammates (Tyreke/Cole) first.
All while your center position is extremely one dimensional; Ajinca is a poor defender, good offensive center while Asik is a good defender, poor offensively (although they both have improved).
Now the problem becomes, they combine for maybe 20 minutes a game and this coach runs small ball so your franchise POWER FORWARD is now playing more than half his minutes at a position he shouldn't be for too long.
The point of Asik AND Ajinca was so that AD can continue to play his natural 4 for most of the game and play as the 5 in crunch time with Ryno at the 4.
This damn whole team is about to waste their second chance at basketball salvation because of personnel decisions that make Bower look like a genius and a coach more hardheaded than a turtle shell
AD, Jrue, and QPon.
Everyone else is too one-dimensional in a team with not enough multiple niche players.
You have no true threat from 3pt range outside of EG and Ryno. Issue is they are poor defenders although they give a ton of effort. Your average defenders in Gee and Cunningham can't knock down open 3s consistently at all.
Then, your combo guard and his backup are both low IQ players who try to get themselves going, but not setting up their own teammates (Tyreke/Cole) first.
All while your center position is extremely one dimensional; Ajinca is a poor defender, good offensive center while Asik is a good defender, poor offensively (although they both have improved).
Now the problem becomes, they combine for maybe 20 minutes a game and this coach runs small ball so your franchise POWER FORWARD is now playing more than half his minutes at a position he shouldn't be for too long.
The point of Asik AND Ajinca was so that AD can continue to play his natural 4 for most of the game and play as the 5 in crunch time with Ryno at the 4.
This damn whole team is about to waste their second chance at basketball salvation because of personnel decisions that make Bower look like a genius and a coach more hardheaded than a turtle shell
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 12:28 am
Posted on 2/5/16 at 1:00 am to htran90
I think guys like BDJ are what we need to look more towards.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 1:02 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:
You are being a rockets homer!
Sorry bud for snapping
Rough time
Posted on 2/5/16 at 1:18 am to LosLobos111
We all understand
Posted on 2/5/16 at 1:27 am to LosLobos111
quote:
I think guys like BDJ are what we need to look more towards.
I think so too and we've made too many personnel mistakes at this moment to fully optimize our scouting (which is apparently pretty damned good).
Guys like Ish and BDJ you want to keep, they hustle and play team ball the whole time they're in there, 10 minutes or 30 minutes. Guys like Cole and Tyreke you're better off without long term for "team basketball".
Imagine if our team currently (taking injuries into consideration) was:
Smith-BDJ-Gee-AD-Asik
Holiday-Douglas-Cunningham-Ryno-Ajinca
Hell, look at us full strength.
All 4 guards play into the concept and strengths of ball movement and team ball, 3 of which are good off ball.
Holiday-BDJ-QPon-AD-Asik
Smith-EG/Douglas-Gee/Cunningham-Ryno-Ajinca
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:18 am to eyeran
Gentry's offensive and defensive schemes such. his offense seems to focus around taking our best player away from the basket. Someone needs to tell him AD is not Curry and is not a PG. On defense, he continues to have his big men run out to the perimeter on the ball handler to force a pass. However, once the big man runs out, that pass comes into the lane and results in easy baskets. Gentry's schemes just do not fit this team or its star.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:31 am to eyeran
Dell is terrible - the asik signing should do him in if all of his other dumbass moves do not
Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:02 am to htran90
quote:
We have legitimately 3 2-way starters on this team.
quote:
QPon.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:08 am to Boomshockalocka
He should have said players rather than starters, but QPon can be in a starting lineup. I posed this lineup in our Khris Middleton fantasy thread
Jrue
QPon
Middleton
AD
Asik
Could QPon be upgraded? Yes, would he be a problem for that lineup? No. And he's certainly better than what a lot of other teams trot out as their 4th or 5th starter.
Jrue
QPon
Middleton
AD
Asik
Could QPon be upgraded? Yes, would he be a problem for that lineup? No. And he's certainly better than what a lot of other teams trot out as their 4th or 5th starter.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 8:10 am
Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:23 am to Let Me Take A Selfie
quote:
And Dell Demps isn't a good GM, and if we're being honest Benson isn't a good owner
Just an awful organization from the top to the bottom
Yup.
quote:
This year he doesn't know what an open shot looks like vs them
Not saying you're wrong about AD's looks and Gentry's performance as coach here, and the shot data is a little wonky...
But according to NBA stats, he's taking 43% of his shots either OPEN or WIDE OPEN this season v 39% last year. He's shooting about 5% worse on OPEN shots this year than last (44 v 49) and 3% worse on WIDE OPEN (51 v 54).
The bulk of his shots both this year and last come while guarded TIGHT (36% v 38%). But same trend with shooting (52% this year v 57% last).
Shot types are roughly the same- 40% MID Range, 34% RA this season v 45% MID, 39% RA.
Questions here are how much of this slip is offense design, how much is playing minutes every game with Gee/Asik and now Cole, how much is increased defensive attention, taking more 3s, and plenty of others.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:19 pm to corndeaux
I've got no loyalty to Gentry. But there are some clueless players on this team. I saw a little kid in the audience jumping up and down screaming at Cunningham to friggin' foul Kobe. And it took AD to run over and finally do it.
Popovich himself couldn't get much out of this roster.
Popovich himself couldn't get much out of this roster.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 3:43 am to Eman5805
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Popovich himself couldn't get much out of this roster.
Monty got this team 45 wins last year and lost about 6-7 that he shouldn't have. Pop might not be able to get them to be a championship contender but they would be better than the 8th seed like last year.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 11:33 am to fightingtigers98
It's a garbage roster.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 12:10 pm to Markie812
Monty also had AD shooting better and a SF who can do things that Cunningham and gee can't, like hit an open 3. I've seen them so open and miss those shots would be knocked down cols by any gs sf
Posted on 2/7/16 at 10:41 am to fightingtigers98
quote:
Alvin should have never been hired in the first place,
Posted on 2/7/16 at 4:39 pm to fightingtigers98
History tells us much of what the future will be ......
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