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A nice breakdown of Borrego’s offensive sets
Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:23 pm
Everyone is constantly moving with a purpose on each set, it’s not just 2 or 3 guys in the action while the other 2 sit in the corners
Hopefully he teaches our bigs how to set screens and our guards to wait until the screen is set
YOUTUBE
Hopefully he teaches our bigs how to set screens and our guards to wait until the screen is set
YOUTUBE
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 5:25 pm
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:32 pm to Louisianabound88
Hopefully he can get BI up to like 7 3pa/gm
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:38 pm to Balsamic_duck
I mean the mid range seems to be BI’s game and he’s really good at it. I think he’s fine shooting 4 or 5 3’s a game at above 37% when he can still get buckets at will.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:44 pm to Mad Scientist26
BI can be a good player only shooting 4-5 threes a game for sure. But if he wants to take his game to the next level he needs to stretch his comfort zone and more threes.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:48 pm to Mad Scientist26
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I mean the mid range seems to be BI’s game and he’s really good at it. I think he’s fine shooting 4 or 5 3’s a game at above 37% when he can still get buckets at will.
It’s really not fine. It’s an inefficient shot. It’s great that BI is good at them and that’s really valuable In the post season but he needs to be taking at least 6 3s a game. It’s a math game. Zion doesn’t take 3s, our center won’t take 3s, so that leave 3 starters and the bench to shoot 35 3s/gm if you want to be top 10 in 3pa.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:49 pm to Balsamic_duck
He needs to get back to 6 a game like he was averaging in the 19/20 and 20/21 seasons. Its clear Green doesn't emphasize the deep ball and there's a trend in the regression of his attempts since Green got here. And that goes for the entire team. They need to start emphasizing the deep ball. There's no reason why JV shouldn't be averaging 3-4 a game as well. Same goes for Zion.
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:49 pm to supe12sta12z
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Its clear Green doesn't emphasize the deep ball and there's a trend in the regression of his attempts since Green got here.
Willie said multiple times last year he wants them taking more 3’s, Ingram just refused to shoot them.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:01 pm to Soggymoss
It's also true that BI gets way more open catch-and-shoot 3s when Zion is on the court.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:24 pm to Louisianabound88
Appears to be a good hire, Borrego comes from the Pop tree, and I like that he emphasizes sets where everyone is in the action. This should in principle get BI and Zion better looks as it will be harder for opponents to hedge, double, or triple-team as action is occurring off-ball.
For sure they'll retain some sets to isolate when Zion, BI, or CJ are cooking but it won't be the staple. One thing about this team is they have multiple ball-handlers/play-makers and this type of offense should create opportunities to reduce the number of contested shots and finishes.
For sure they'll retain some sets to isolate when Zion, BI, or CJ are cooking but it won't be the staple. One thing about this team is they have multiple ball-handlers/play-makers and this type of offense should create opportunities to reduce the number of contested shots and finishes.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:43 pm to Balsamic_duck
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Zion doesn’t take 3s, our center won’t take 3s, so that leave 3 starters and the bench to shoot 35 3s/gm if you want to be top 10 in 3pa
Yeah both Zion and Jonas need to be shooting 3s, though.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:39 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
I made these posts a few months back regarding BI and other wings, specifically Tatum. BI needs to refine his shot selection. I don’t hate him taking mids, but value is in getting to the rim, getting to the line, and getting up threes.
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Someone in the comments brought up Jayson Tatum. Tatum takes 9.3 threes a game and 22.4% of his shots come at the rim. He also gets to the line 8.7 times a game.
I think the push for threes and attacking the rim is quite interesting when you look at Tatum taking 65.9% of his shots from those areas on the court. Compared who BI who takes just 36.1% of his shots from three and at the rim. I can’t help but wonder what type of scorer BI would become if he changed his shot selection.
BI has also only taken 54 shots at the rim this year, which is an insane number even with the amount of time he missed.
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He's definitely not Tatum, but that stark difference has a lot to do with mentality and approach as well.
Though I also think it's worth noting that BI and Tatum's fouls drawn are pretty similar, with BI actually coming out ahead in several categories. Tatum holds the edge on percentage of drives that end in a foul for example, 10.8% to 10%. Pretty close. BI holds the edge on iso/75 that ends in a foul, 5.2 to 4.7, also pretty close.
A lot of it just comes back to shot selection for me. Tatum's 3PTA rate is 43.5%, BI's is 22.5%. That has nothing to do with quickness or how big or strong you are. Per 75 possessions Tatum gets 5.7 shots at the rim, BI gets 3.2. Even something like using Tatum as the screen and roll man, 2 times per 75 possessions, BI is at 0.1. They even do a better job getting Tatum paint touches on cuts, posts, etc etc, 3.1 to 0.8 per 75.
Just a lot smarter offensive basketball going on over there in Boston, imo.
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Here you can kind of see where BI ranks in terms of 3pt attempts vs those other guys you mentioned.
His positioning on that graph is not where you want him to be.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:57 pm to CP3forMVP
League average scoring efficiency is .581 TS%.
BI's TS% this season was .582.
Being a good mid-range shooter doesn't make you an efficient scorer. More 3s, more shots at the rim. The mid-range is still immensely valuable but dial it down to late shot clock situations or if you're just on a heater.
He certainly should take more 3s but we don't talk enough about how he should attack the rim more. He's so good at this but doesn't do it enough.
BI's TS% this season was .582.
Being a good mid-range shooter doesn't make you an efficient scorer. More 3s, more shots at the rim. The mid-range is still immensely valuable but dial it down to late shot clock situations or if you're just on a heater.
He certainly should take more 3s but we don't talk enough about how he should attack the rim more. He's so good at this but doesn't do it enough.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:32 am to shel311
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League average scoring efficiency is .581 TS%. BI's TS% this season was .582. Being a good mid-range shooter doesn't make you an efficient scorer. More 3s, more shots at the rim. The mid-range is still immensely valuable but dial it down to late shot clock situations or if you're just on a heater. He certainly should take more 3s but we don't talk enough about how he should attack the rim more. He's so good at this but doesn't do it enough
His first year here I feel like he was always attacking the rim. Since then I feel like it’s declined each year
Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:57 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:This is correct
His first year here I feel like he was always attacking the rim. Since then I feel like it’s declined each year
In his 1st year here, 24.8% of his shots were from 0-3 feet out. The next 3 seasons it has been 14.4/14.0/14.3%.
And for reference, the 3 Lakers seasons were 27.8/37.5/34%
Not sure what's going on there, but that's a HUGE change.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:35 am to shel311
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This is correct
In his 1st year here, 24.8% of his shots were from 0-3 feet out. The next 3 seasons it has been 14.4/14.0/14.3%.
And for reference, the 3 Lakers seasons were 27.8/37.5/34%
Not sure what's going on there, but that's a HUGE change.
Yeah thats unacceptable. He must attack the rim and shoot 3s more. It honestly shows how talented of a scorer BI is that he was able to be efficient last season while his shots mostly came from inefficient shots. If he can change his shot diet then his efficiency should skyrocket
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:00 am to shel311
The jump really started with Green. And has been trending upwards since then. Willie doesn't have issues with guys operating in the Key/Elbow/Post all day long Even to their own detriment. Even if he says he wants the team to shoot more 3s, I haven't seen them actually run anywhere near enough actions with any type of consistency or frequency to get guys like BI to shoot it. We have this dependency on giving BI the ball behind and arc or on the elbow/Key and letting him get to his spots. And thats not going to change if they don't get more creative on offense. That's where you hope a guy like Borrego can get through to BI with this offensive schemes/plays/actions.
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