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re: 2022-23 Lakers Thread
Posted on 8/17/22 at 4:02 pm to longhorn22
Posted on 8/17/22 at 4:02 pm to longhorn22
quote:
All that kind of talk sounds like the teams in the AFC east when Brady just continued to stack...
LeBron's game is in clear decline. He used to be the best player in the world by a good bit. Even when he's healthy now, there's no real way to get him into the top five. LeBron is still somewhere between #6 and #10, but his scores in both 538's RAPTOR metric and in B-Ball Index's LEBRON metric were the lowest in their databases (nine years for RAPTOR and thirteen years for LEBRON).
In three years, the chance that he'll be the same player that he is now is zero. He's already in decline, and all the HGH in the world isn't going to stop that.
And, yeah, the comparison to an NFL QB is silly. Playing QB is about leadership and decision-making, and for someone like Brady, it does not depend on overall athleticism.
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:39 am to GOP_Tiger
Woj
nets not interested until they deal with durant
quote:
In a Sportscenter appearance, ESPN NBA insider Adrian Wojnarowski said the Los Angeles Lakers have changed their tune slightly in trade talks. After months of saying they wouldn't trade two of their own first round picks in a deal, the Lakers have made it known that they would trade two firsts in a deal for Kyrie Irving of the Brooklyn Nets.
nets not interested until they deal with durant
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:34 am to cgrand
quote:
nets not interested until they deal with durant
are nets still asking for an all star starter and goebert+1 firsts?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 10:01 am to CelticDog
The Nets were never going to get that but it was supposed to start a bidding war.
Problem is that they held a bidding war and no one came.
Teams are standing pat on their offers and some teams have left the table due to other circumstances (Phoenix due to Ayton, etc).
Durant doing this shite later in the offseason rather than before was a horribly stupid move on his part because it limited offers Brooklyn would receive. Kind of like AD trying to force a trade right before the deadline to LA for chump change and getting pissed when we told him “No, we want to get a better offer.”
Problem is that they held a bidding war and no one came.
Teams are standing pat on their offers and some teams have left the table due to other circumstances (Phoenix due to Ayton, etc).
Durant doing this shite later in the offseason rather than before was a horribly stupid move on his part because it limited offers Brooklyn would receive. Kind of like AD trying to force a trade right before the deadline to LA for chump change and getting pissed when we told him “No, we want to get a better offer.”
Posted on 8/18/22 at 10:19 am to cgrand
correct, this was news last week or the week before.
I guess since we are in the lull of everything and LeBron signed the extension yesterday, everyone is recycling that..
I guess since we are in the lull of everything and LeBron signed the extension yesterday, everyone is recycling that..
Posted on 8/18/22 at 11:03 am to teke184
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Durant doing this shite later in the offseason rather than before was a horribly stupid move on his part because it limited offers Brooklyn would receive.
Not to mention that when he said that he wanted to play for the Suns or the Heat ... that also kinda limited the offers that the Nets were going to get. They couldn't start a bidding war with only two teams allowed to bid.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:14 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
REPORT: The Lakers have been willing to include both of their first round-picks in a Kyrie Irving deal but the Nets are not interested. (via @wojespn)
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:24 pm to Soggymoss
quote:I am sure this will eventually get done. Probably just need to figure out who gets stuck with Westbrook.
quote:
REPORT: The Lakers have been willing to include both of their first round-picks in a Kyrie Irving deal but the Nets are not interested. (via @wojespn)
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:35 pm to NOSHAU
Thing is nobody will take Westbrook without picks, and those 2 1sts are all LA has.
There’s also another report that Kyrie has told Brooklyn he wants to stay and play out the year.
There’s also another report that Kyrie has told Brooklyn he wants to stay and play out the year.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:40 pm to Soggymoss
quote:I hope that is true as it will mess up the Lakers.
There’s also another report that Kyrie has told Brooklyn he wants to stay and play out the year.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:52 pm to Soggymoss
Theoretically, who would be sent to LA if Kyrie is off the board?
San Antonio will eat Westbrick if it means two future unprotected firsts but I don’t see them sending any players of significance out there.
Indy would want a better return than that if they are Westbrick while sending out Turner and Buddy Hield.
Second look at taking Charlotte’s trash?
San Antonio will eat Westbrick if it means two future unprotected firsts but I don’t see them sending any players of significance out there.
Indy would want a better return than that if they are Westbrick while sending out Turner and Buddy Hield.
Second look at taking Charlotte’s trash?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:53 pm to NOSHAU
Kyrie is definitely playing this year. It's a contract year after all. He's going to ball out, pretend to be a team player for a few months, get paid, then go right back to his usual bs.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:00 pm to teke184
quote:
San Antonio will eat Westbrick if it means two future unprotected firsts but I don’t see them sending any players of significance out there.
LAL: mcdermott, richardson, collins
SAS: goatbrook, 27 & 29 1sts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:03 pm to cgrand
SAS can bring Westbrick into cap space IIRC.
Why send out people with value if you don’t have to?
Edit - I may be wrong. Spotrac claims they have about $24m in cap space so they would have to send salary out to partially match Westbrick.
They’d need to ship out closer to $20m than the approximately $40m you listed.
Why send out people with value if you don’t have to?
Edit - I may be wrong. Spotrac claims they have about $24m in cap space so they would have to send salary out to partially match Westbrick.
They’d need to ship out closer to $20m than the approximately $40m you listed.
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:06 pm to teke184
quote:none of those guys are in SAS's future and two of them have two years money left
Why send out people with value if you don’t have to?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:07 pm to cgrand
On the flip side, though, the Spurs could get assets for McBuckets and Richardson.
Westbrook is pretty much worth two unprotected firsts to eat between being bought out upon arrival and the size of his contract. I don’t see much positive value heading back to LA even with those picks attached.
Westbrook is pretty much worth two unprotected firsts to eat between being bought out upon arrival and the size of his contract. I don’t see much positive value heading back to LA even with those picks attached.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:09 pm to teke184
obviously it would be the spurs' call
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:10 pm to cgrand
Take a look at Pop’s history with the Lakers and trades then tell me they do this.
They took a lesser value for Kawhi rather than trade him to the Lake Show.
They took a lesser value for Kawhi rather than trade him to the Lake Show.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:32 am to teke184
quote:
Take a look at Pop’s history with the Lakers and trades then tell me they do this.
Correct. Pop won't help any in conference teams, especially the Lakers.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 3:35 pm to HickfawJim1
What is his usual BS? Im assuming you are referring to the vaccine fiasco. He didnt choose to sit out. He was held out for doing what 95% of this board claims they did or wish they did. Yea he is a weird cat but he gained respect imo for doing what he believed in
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