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re: 2021 NBA Trade thread BREAKING: Bagley to Pistons in 4 team deal

Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:34 am to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:34 am to
Nance for KCP keeps us right at $1M under the tax. Not sure why Washington does that though, unless we give them some 2nds, which i'm fine with.
KCP is non-guaranteed next year. Nance is fully guaranteed next year. If Washington is blowing it up, i'm sure they'll want cap space.


Nance for Huerter is very difficult for us now that we don't have the TPE to absorb Huerters PP salary. We can send out Nance to them for Huerter and it's ok for us, but the Hawks would still need to send out a little over $5M to make it happen, and we would not have the room under the tax to take that salary in, so someone like Knox would have to get sent somewhere else in the deal, and OKC is open to taking anything.
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:36 am to
Completely agree with all Teddy
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13491 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:48 am to
I honestly think Griffin wants Nance. I do not think he is looking to move him. I would guess we are done unless someone enticing becomes available that we cannot pass up. That would likely be a smaller contract or involve Graham.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17420 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:50 am to
Yeah, in another thread i suggested sending Nance out in the Philly/Nets deal and Philly sending a 1st to Atlanta on our behalf and we take Huerter.

Seems like the only way to make that happen since we don't have the TPE.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17420 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:55 am to
quote:

James Harden is pushing for a trade to Philadelphia, per Brian Windhorst

"I can't tell you how much James Harden wants this..He is screaming in every way he possibly can 'I don't want to be here, get me out of here.'"??

(h/t @RealGM ) LINK

It's gotta happen

quote:

Report: Nets have asked Sixers for both Matisse Thybulle and Tyrese Maxey to be included in a potential Ben Simmons trade, via @Schultz_Report

Brooklyn also has “tangible” interest in Seth Curry. LINK
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 11:01 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29818 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:02 am to
quote:

I honestly think Griffin wants Nance



I do too.
I think he sees him as the guy we'll keep going forward, and he hopes Jax gets to the point where we can send him out and get a much better return than we would for Nance.

I would be looking for Nance/Kira trade in the offseason for that backup SG, and keeping Jax. Although we are going to have a problem in 2024 when we have 3 guys making $30M+, and we have to give Jax a new contract, but the salary cap is expect to grow significantly over the next few years, so maybe it's not that bad.
Posted by DannyDevito
Beverly Hills
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:02 am to
Why is Harden dying to leave another team? What does he actually want?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17420 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:04 am to
He wants to be "the man" like he was in Houston.

Dude doesn't care about winning, only his stats
Posted by DannyDevito
Beverly Hills
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:06 am to
He realizes the 76ers are Embiid’s team right?
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12945 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:07 am to
It's more than that. He can't take criticism and deflects blame. It something that followed his career since OKC.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12945 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:12 am to
If you think about it, keeping Nance is a no brainer especially if Williamson continues to be injury riddled. He's a nice insurance policy as he's a guy who is a good bench guy with the ability to start in spots. This might be the deepest and most balanced team we have in the Griffin era. For the first time, I don't feel like we are fielding a crater behind Williamson and Ingram.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15790 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:16 am to
How long before he's screaming to be out of Philly if he's traded there?
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12945 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:16 am to
Right after they extend him.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:45 am to
quote:

He wants to be "the man" like he was in Houston. Dude doesn't care about winning, only his stats

I’ve read the opposite. That he’s pissed that the Big 3 in Brooklyn has been limited by injuries and Kyries medical freedom. That he doesn’t want to carry the load as much, & he’s being forced to.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

I’ve read the opposite. That he’s pissed that the Big 3 in Brooklyn has been limited by injuries and Kyries medical freedom. That he doesn’t want to carry the load as much, & he’s being forced to.




Yeah thats what I've read as well.

Tired of Kyrie's bullshite and basically having to carry the team like Houston.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

I honestly think Griffin wants Nance.


We tried to trade for him last year, so I think that's a safe bet.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40825 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:35 pm to
quote:


Tired of Kyrie's bullshite and basically having to carry the team like Houston.


I would be too. Durant or Harden might not have wanted to get the vaccine either, who knows, but they did. It just makes Kyrie seem like a bum that is just looking for an excuse to not play as many games and let the others do the work for you. No way i'd want to try and be a different player every other night just to accommodate the needs of another diva.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17420 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

There’s no negotiation going on between Philadelphia and Brooklyn, per @wojespn

"The idea that they are going back and forth that's been surmised by some, I don't believe that to be accurate."??????

(h/t @DerekBodnerNBA ) LINK

Well shite
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128052 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:43 pm to
Or, alternatively, one of those teams wants to downplay it
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17420 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:45 pm to
I dunno, if Woj is saying it's not happening, that's a pretty big statement by him.
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