re: working with a producer to make your song sound cleaner/more professional/better arranged?

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A lot of it in recent years has just been for my own amusements.

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Man, that's all it should be.
If you ever want to make serious shite, you can email me.
If you want to deal in reality, I can burn nearly everybody alive with truth. It's been hard, but I try to be a nice guy, always.

I only make serious shite

I try to clothe my efforts in a layer of silliness and bulls$&t to distract from how serious the subject matter of the songs are and how much I really desire to be successful verses my perceived incompetence at the business side of things among other fears and insecurities.

I am a crazy person. I have to mask my craziness to survive and stay employed. In music, I can pour in every ounce of that crazy into these songs, and then be as unhinged on stage as I wish I could be in my regular life and get embraced and praised for it rather than shunned and locked away.

Going back to the OP: If you are demoing a song to get published and done by other artists, you don't want your demo to be perfect and polished. You don't want fantastic musical breaks with great lead guitar, steel, fiddle things like that. Just get the basic song down well. Get all your lyrics in, but keep it as short as possible.

If you don't mind, also give us you first impressions, from going to that meeting.

Nm

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For the most part, on the second post where he said to rewrite the first two lines of my first verse that really doesn’t make since bc the first line and 3rd line are both about the cost of things being higher and not being able to afford something. Idk. But it was a little wordy and the chours of the first song did feel a little flat. I’m happy with the criticism

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When you go to that first meeting, just pay attention to how the other writers act.
I hate that #37446 MFEr

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So are we going to get a link to this TikTok song or what?

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Maybe. tik tok tik tok tic...

No, I was just jokin. They've been doin that #number shite for a long time.
They used to do critiques in person, I guess somebody got their arse kicked though.

The whole deal was a lot more fun when it was all just a bunch of country rednecks.

One time, me and my friend that I was writing with, dressed up in overalls, flannel shirts dark glasses. Took mandolin and banjo into the office lobby and pretended that we were blind.
He had this page of paper that was typed in braille and we were acting like that was the lyric sheet for our song.
He had this whole thing scripted out where we would get in an argument about song credits and then a fist fight between 2 blind guys, but Felice Bryant came out of her office and recognized us. Screwed the whole thing up.

Great man! Did you meet any hot women?
Really though, the whole deal is kind of addicting isn't it?
You should let your friends here, hear your song.
And when you are accepting your first Grammy, give us a shout out on the TD music board!

if you're in baton rouge i have a studio