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Why did outspoken liberal Joan Baez cover "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down"?

Posted on 7/2/23 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Lakebound
Member since Nov 2004
3990 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 5:25 pm
Was she hungry?
Was she barely alive?
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
47402 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 5:41 pm to
I always thought it was kind of weird that a female singing from a male first person perspective was such a hit.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13780 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:08 pm to
Not a convincing Virgil Cane. And some of her lyrics are ridiculous. But still, I always liked her version too.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 4:41 am to
Bc it's a great song and woke was nowhere in sight.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31578 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 5:54 am to
Dobie Gray's version is the best ever.
It was just about the song.
LINK

The crackle in his voice( In the winter of 65} at about 16 seconds in, is almost perfect.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 6:37 am
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 6:19 am to
Well, the song was written by a Canadian who wasn't interested in the politics as much as the lingering sadness and pain people in the south still felt about the civil war. The song is a story about a place and time which is the concept of that entire album, The Band. So I assume Baez was moved by the story and emotion in the song.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 8:19 am to
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But still, I always liked her version too.

I like both versions too. Heard the Joan version first, then the original.

Nobody could sing quite like Levon though. RIP
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47460 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 4:34 pm to
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Was she hungry?
Was she barely alive?


Being a liberal in the late 60s, early 70s was a little different than now. And it's not like the members of The Band were exactly conservative. Additionally, it is a lament about the woes of war, not necessarily a song suggesting the South was in any way morally superior.

This verse seems to be lamenting the excesses the Southern troops took. No winners in that conflict.

quote:

Back with my wife in Tennessee
When one day she called to me
"Virgil, quick, come see, there goes Robert E.Lee"
Now I don't mind choppin' wood
And I don't care if the money's no good
Ya take what ya need and ya leave the rest
But they should never have taken the very best


FTR, the first version I remember hearing was the Joan Baez version when I was very young. I prefer The Band's version.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7009 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 7:04 pm to
Unless you're just determined to see the south as American nazis, there's a lot to be fascinated with on the aftermath of the civil war.

Poor men fought the south's war for a very few rich men. (Same as most wars) But the United States made the south pay and it took probably a century or more to reach anything resembling equilibrium. White people, black people, hispanic, indian... a diverse cast found themselves equally poor and miserable following that war and hopelessly behind those who came south to take advantage. Plus, it's a good song. Glad she saw that more than the politics of it.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4721 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 7:24 pm to
This post made me go listen to the Band's version. Joan Baez has a stunning voice, but my God, you can just hear the pain and sadness in Levon's singing. He literally turns into Virgil Caine in this song....Fantastic.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47460 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Unless you're just determined to see the south as American nazis, there's a lot to be fascinated with on the aftermath of the civil war.



Indeed.

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Poor men fought the south's war for a very few rich men. (Same as most wars)


Indeed. Oddly, when you look at some of the economics of the South, there were slave owners who had excess manpower that they would rent out to other farmers during harvest or planting effectively taking potential jobs away from white laborers. The same people who were often conscripted into military service.

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But the United States made the south pay and it took probably a century or more to reach anything resembling equilibrium


I believe it significantly impacted the ongoing prejudice and resentment that probably fueled much of the Jim Crow South. The irony is that the assassination of Lincoln by a Southerner and Confederate sympathizer probably precipitated how reconstruction went. By all accounts, Lincoln's plan was to do all he could to reunite the union as painlessly as possible with draconian retribution. People who wanted to punish the South and use the war to their political advantage fanned the flames after Lincoln's assassination and a weak Andrew Johnson capitulated to all their demands.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22282 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 8:06 pm to
Why did Joan Baez change the words, "till Stoneman's Calvary came" to "till so much calvary came"?
Posted by Mizooag94
Hillbillyville, MO
Member since Sep 2018
1641 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 1:21 pm to
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Dobie Gray's version is the best ever. It was just about the song.


Jerry Garcia played a few good renditions...
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177321 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 1:38 pm to
Her version is garbage. She gets half the words wrong
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:22 pm to
That song stinks
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177321 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:51 pm to
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Why did Joan Baez change the words, "till Stoneman's Calvary came" to "till so much calvary came"?


Because she was an idiot who didn't know the words. She heard the song and recorded it based on what she thought she heard. Baez didn't know who George Stoneman was.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47460 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

This post made me go listen to the Band's version. Joan Baez has a stunning voice, but my God, you can just hear the pain and sadness in Levon's singing. He literally turns into Virgil Caine in this song....Fantastic.




Exactly, you can feel it when Levon sings the song.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19900 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:37 am to
Her version is awful.
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