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re: Who is the most wasted talent in country music?

Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by Chitter Chatter
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:22 pm to
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Kelly Willis


Back Being Blue is a fantastic song. Very soulful
Back Being Blue
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:25 pm to
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The genre almost died out in the 50s when RNR came a long and local radio stations stopped playing it in favor of the new wave of music.
I'm speaking artistically. I consider the honky tonk era to be country's golden age.
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It became popular enough that 65% of Vietnam soldiers favored the music over rock music
That's due at least in part to the draft getting an overabundance of rural whites, while suburban whites who favored R&R got college deferments or simply found a way to dodge the draft.
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It is not what they have done but what could have been if they were alive and that is the question that will be never answered
Is that what this thread is about? Buddy Holly what might have been?

I took it to be about whose talent was wasted.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:26 pm to
Keith whitley's alcoholism was so bad that band members couldn't drink a round him. It was bad enough that he started drinking anything that had alcohol in it. He was only 34.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:28 pm to
Mel Street, 13 top 20 hits in the 70's and shot himself in 1978 at the age of 45.

Borrowed Angel

I Met a Friend of Yours Today (song starts at 1:30)
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 6:34 pm
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:33 pm to
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Mel Street, 13 top 20 hits in the 70's and shot himself in 1978.


I really liked him. I didn't know that he shot himself, or had forgotten about it somehow.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:49 pm to
Gary Stewart should have a better career than he did, but personal demons hurt him.

Wade Hayes should have been a star.
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:54 pm to
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Gary Stewart should have a better career than he did, but personal demons hurt him.


That name doesn't ring a bell for me.


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Wade Hayes should have been a star.


I remember that name, and I remember that I liked him, but I can't remember anything he did right now.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:56 pm to
It was more or less a bout potential wasted. They never lived long enough to see what they could have done. They could have lived and evolved as the years went on. The best years could have been a head of them. But instead it is what if? So in part talent was wasted as the potential was never reached. We will never know if it was the best they could have done.







Posted by Pauldingtiger
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:59 pm to
Anyone singing the awful country music today. When your trying to merge Country and Rap together you get CRap.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:06 pm to
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Gary Stewart


She's Actin Single
Out of Hand
Ten Years of This
Your Place or Mine

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Wade Hayes

Old Enough to Know Better
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:14 pm to
Nashville can find better talent but they wanted for years to market to a larger audience. They forsake history in favor of snap, crackle and pop music. It doesn't sound that much different than today's pop music. But it sells and that's what matters to the establishment.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:36 pm to
Sometimes, I think that they prefer to keep the bar at a medium level. It's easier that way, to just plug and play new artists.
A generational talent gets too much control, and also makes it hard on everyone else.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:36 pm to
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Kelly Willis


Here is KW with Bruce’s brother Charlie. Tragically his career ended a few years ago due to a throat problem.
The Wedding Song
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 7:37 pm
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:01 pm to
They want to keep the songwriting at a minimum because it is more time consuming to write good music. So more emphasis is on the sound as I assume it is cheaper that way. The demographics are catered to a younger audience. So you make songwriting easy enough for them to understand. Girls, trucks, six pack, more girls, pimp my truck more and so on.

The classic country doesn't appeal to that demographic as it talks a bout teal life events. It has always been music for the older audiences. But it grows on you as you start to age. You begin to appreciate what they were trying to say.

I don't see any generational talent right now. I see some good talent that is trying to turn it back to it's roots. But nobody just wows me and Nashville is sorely missing great songwriting.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:12 pm to
Brad Paisley
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:20 pm to
One big factor: younger people spend more money on music than older people do, so you have to market towards them.
I know I rarely spend money on music anymore, and when I was younger it was something that I spent a lot on. I don't even listen to radio anymore, unless I'm driving at night and can get a really good classic rock station.
Posted by auggie
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:32 pm to
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Brad Paisley


I think we might be on the same page here. He is the kind of guitar player that could do bigger things.
Who knows though, he's got it made now already, life is easy, and probably will be from now on. He can sit around in his home studio, and achieve all the artistic greatness anyone could ask for, but nobody else might ever hear it.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31581 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:45 pm to
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. But nobody just wows me and Nashville is sorely missing great songwriting.


Nashville still has lots of fantastic songwriters, but there are less opportunities to get songs cut. It's done more now, as a staff writing kind of thing, so the artist can get half of the writing credit.

Writing a good song and getting it picked up and recorded by a major artist is almost impossible.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:51 pm to
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Writing a good song and getting it picked up and recorded by a major artist is almost impossible.


Robbie Fulks wrote "frick This Town" to express his disgust at Nashville.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13988 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 8:53 pm to
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