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re: Who had a better career, better catalog of music, The Eagles or Aerosmith?
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:04 pm to DaleGribble
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:04 pm to DaleGribble
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Pretty easy to do when the Eagles weren't even recording. Don't make me defend the Eagles.
No need to defend them, there's nothing to defend. They literally did nothing in the 80s and their Hell Freezes Over money grab was in 1994.
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You think that What It Takes is a great song and that Diane Warren is a "tremendous" songwriter. We'll never agree on this. She represents the very worst of what 80s and 90s pop music had to offer.
She's a prolific songwriter that has written hundreds of songs for dozens of artists. Again, you might not like her music, but you can't argue with her talent and success.
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But go ahead and tell me how absolutely terrible songs like We Built This City, Nothing's Going To Stop Us, Look Away, and Because You Loved me were great songs and massive hits.
I'm not going to do that but feel free to clutch your pearls for musical snobbery.
This post was edited on 3/3/22 at 6:05 pm
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:13 pm to Clovis Pilgreen
LIked Aerosmith through the 70's. Post 70's stuff I hated..you know the Dude Looks Like a Lady and Love in an Elevator trash. Eagles up to the Long Run produced songs that were easy to like and listen too. Once the Eagles added Walsh to go with Felder they were pretty great. It is the hip thing to do to say the Eagles are trash but really unfounded.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:15 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Again, you might not like her music, but you can't argue with her talent and success.
I may not be able to argue that she's had a lot of success(a whole lot). Her talent is tapping into the market for corny, syrupy ballads. The same people that buy her garbage like Celine Dion, Kenny G, and Michael Bolton and think that 80s Chicago and Starship was great music.
It sounds like you're one of those people.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:21 pm to DaleGribble
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I may not be able to argue that she's had a lot of success(a whole lot). Her talent is tapping into the market for corny, syrupy ballads. The same people that buy her garbage like Celine Dion, Kenny G, and Michael Bolton and think that 80s Chicago and Starship was great music.
It takes talent to write pop hits. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's garbage.
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It sounds like you're one of those people.
I'm not one of those people at all. You shouldn't take this stuff so personally, it leads you to be prickish.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:22 pm to DaleGribble
Was it Diane Warren or Melissa Manchester that was doing all of those cheesy pro Biden/anti Trump videos to her own tunes a few years ago?
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:32 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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It takes talent to write pop hits.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:45 pm to DaleGribble
I don't know why you're yucking it up. You're the one who brought her into the conversation, I didn't. We get it, you don't like the woman, who gives a shite?
Posted on 3/3/22 at 7:03 pm to Saint Alfonzo
It's a funny statement. W.A.P. was a pop hit. Did that shite take talent to write?
I brought her into the conversation because you're literally the only person in this thread that seems to think that Aerosmith was releasing anything other than pop garbage in the 80s and 90s.
I brought her into the conversation because you're literally the only person in this thread that seems to think that Aerosmith was releasing anything other than pop garbage in the 80s and 90s.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 7:47 pm to DaleGribble
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I brought her into the conversation because you're literally the only person in this thread that seems to think that Aerosmith was releasing anything other than pop garbage in the 80s and 90s.
I said that Aerosmith had a better 80s and 90s than the Eagles, the time frame you gave, because the Eagles didn't even exist in that time period. You brought in someone I didn't even mention at all, and claimed that I was a fan of hers. I'm not your strawman, so stfu.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 7:48 pm to Clovis Pilgreen
Eagles (but I really love Draw The Line; very underrated and the last decent Aerosmith album). Basically On The Boarder, One Of These Nights, Hotel California > Toys In The Attic, Rocks, Draw The Line. But not by a whole lot. Two great American bands.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 11:39 pm to DaleGribble
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But go ahead and tell me how absolutely terrible songs like We Built This City, Nothing's Going To Stop Us, Look Away, and Because You Loved me were great songs and massive hits.
Why is We Built This City on this list? Diane had nothing to do with that song. It was written by Bernie Taupin, Martin Page, Dennis Lambert and Peter Wolf (not the J. Geils Peter Wolf)
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:37 am to Clovis Pilgreen
Eagles.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 12:07 am to Clovis Pilgreen
I think it’s close but with a gun to my head I say Dream On tips the scales in favor of Aerosmith. Just one of my favorites.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 9:49 pm to John McClane
A better debate would which one of those bands did more cocaine in the 70s.
I'm going with the Eagles for the sole reason that I can make a top 15 song list of the Eagles and not mention Hotel California.
James Dean
In the City
Nightengale
My Man
The Last Resort
21
Out of Control
Outlaw Man
Good Day in Hell
The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks
The Hollywood Waltz
Desperado
Ole 55
Life in the Fast Lane
Chug All Night
Hell, not only is Hotel California not on my list, neither is Take It Easy, Witchy Woman, Already Gone, Lyin Eyes, Take It to the Limit, One of These Nights, The Best of My Love, New Kid in Town, Heartache Tonight, The Long Run, or I Can't Tell You Why. All big hits for the group. I definitely can't go that deep with Aerosmith before running into Walk This Way and Dream On.
As long as we are on the topic has there ever been a song more out of place on an album than Witchy Woman is on the first Eagles album? Every other song on the album is a feel good as close to country as you can get and still actually be country rock song and then you have this eerie, depressing, buzzkill of a song whose lyrics and chorus are pure rock and roll without a drip of country coming through it. They should have saved that song for the On the Border or One of These Nights album. It would fit in more with those.
I'm going with the Eagles for the sole reason that I can make a top 15 song list of the Eagles and not mention Hotel California.
James Dean
In the City
Nightengale
My Man
The Last Resort
21
Out of Control
Outlaw Man
Good Day in Hell
The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks
The Hollywood Waltz
Desperado
Ole 55
Life in the Fast Lane
Chug All Night
Hell, not only is Hotel California not on my list, neither is Take It Easy, Witchy Woman, Already Gone, Lyin Eyes, Take It to the Limit, One of These Nights, The Best of My Love, New Kid in Town, Heartache Tonight, The Long Run, or I Can't Tell You Why. All big hits for the group. I definitely can't go that deep with Aerosmith before running into Walk This Way and Dream On.
As long as we are on the topic has there ever been a song more out of place on an album than Witchy Woman is on the first Eagles album? Every other song on the album is a feel good as close to country as you can get and still actually be country rock song and then you have this eerie, depressing, buzzkill of a song whose lyrics and chorus are pure rock and roll without a drip of country coming through it. They should have saved that song for the On the Border or One of These Nights album. It would fit in more with those.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 10:15 pm to Clovis Pilgreen
I like hard rock better than folk and alt country, so Aerosmith is my preferred band. With that said, if I had a list of songs by each band that I really like verses those that I really DON’T like, I bet Aerosmith would have significantly more songs in both categories. Aerosmith has so much more music to choose from, and the relative quality and style is very inconsistent as it represents 30 years of being relevant in rock n roll from “Draw the Line” to “Jaded”.
The Eagles had a great run in the 70’s and put out a consistent catalog with fewer lows, but also fewer highs.
The Eagles had a great run in the 70’s and put out a consistent catalog with fewer lows, but also fewer highs.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:06 am to Clovis Pilgreen
The Eagles.
They wrote great songs, were really good musicians, and their harmonies were arguably the best in the history of the business aside from The Beatles.
You can also make a case for them being the greatest American rock band ever along w/Metallica.
Aerosmith is Steven Tyler and that's it
They wrote great songs, were really good musicians, and their harmonies were arguably the best in the history of the business aside from The Beatles.
You can also make a case for them being the greatest American rock band ever along w/Metallica.
Aerosmith is Steven Tyler and that's it
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 7:12 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:09 am to 88Wildcat
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A better debate would which one of those bands did more cocaine in the 70s.
Neither. That would be Fleetwood.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:10 am to 88Wildcat
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Desperado
My favorite song of all time.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:57 am to Clovis Pilgreen
Aerosmith has more longevity but I think the Eagles were probably more talented songwriters and musicians overall.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:10 am to Wtodd
The Eagles
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