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re: What is it about Radiohead that makes them so polarizing?

Posted on 8/28/13 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 12:57 pm to
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I know plenty of guitar players that are technically proficient, but cant write a song to save their lives...

They can ape other's sounds, but lack the creativity to do something on their own...

I'm not really defending Radiohead here, I just hate that argument... it's right up there with he can't sing, so and so has a much better voice...


I understand that and I am not putting musicianship up there as the be all end all. It's just dissapointing that a band can get so huge and the musicians cant really play a lick.

An example - Pink Floyd. Both from similar genres and both HUGE bands. I know alot of people that like Pink Floyd and alot of people that like Radiohead, but hardly anyone that likes both. Generally, the people that like Pink Floyd also like other bands/artists that are known for musicianship like Zeppelin, Gary Moore, Pantera, etc. I dont know a single person that likes Radiohead that appreciates other bands known for musicianship.
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 1:03 pm
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 12:59 pm to
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It's just dissapointing that a band can get so huge and the musicians cant really play a lick.


I'm on my phone and don't feel like posting links to songs, but this is so wrong.

Listen to "Just" and "Paranoid Android" and say Greenwood can't play a lick. "There There" has a rocking solo as well.
Posted by Meursault
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:03 pm to
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dmm is from Almería?


Perhaps his friends are? I have no way of knowing.
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 1:04 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:04 pm to
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Listen to "Just" and "Paranoid Android" and say Greenwood can't play a lick. "There There" has a rocking solo as well.


I just listened to Paranoid Android 10 minutes ago and thought it was incredibly subpar and boring. I was specifically listening for musicianship and that was subpar as well. Guitar solo sucked as well. It sounded like someone had been playing guitar for 6 months and decided to go put in 1/2 hr in the studio.
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 1:06 pm
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:06 pm to
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Ok so he's a great composer and he's a multi-instrumentalist. What is he known for in Radiohead? He's known for being the lead guitar player. I know plenty of people from my home town that can play circles around him. If he were to sit down with an electric guitar in one chair and someone that can really play were to sit down beside him and you'd say "ok, entertain me", he would be subpar.

HAHA WAT
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:06 pm to
this thread is just more proof that bobbyray has even worse tastes in music than the doc
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:06 pm to
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I understand that and I am not putting musicianship up there as the be all end all. It's just dissapointing that a band can get so huge and the musicians cant really play a lick.

An example - Pink Floyd. Both from similar genres and both HUGE bands. I know alot of people that like Pink Floyd and alot of people that like Radiohead, but hardly anyone that likes both. Generally, the people that like Pink Floyd also like other bands/artists that are known for musicianship like Zeppelin, Gary Moore, Pantera, etc. I dont know a single person that likes Radiohead that appreciates other bands known for musicianship.


Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:12 pm to
Just listened to "Just", and yea, someone that has been playing for 6 months could compose that, record that, and you wouldnt be able to tell the difference. The clean tone he had on some of the melodies that he harmonized with the vocal hooks leading into the chorus was very good, but that's about the only positive thing I can say about that. His dirty tone was horrible.
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 1:13 pm
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:14 pm to
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I just listened to Paranoid Android 10 minutes ago and thought it was incredibly subpar and boring. I was specifically listening for musicianship and that was subpar as well. Guitar solo sucked as well. It sounded like someone had been playing guitar for 6 months and decided to go put in 1/2 hr in the studio





But seriously, what are some of your favorite artists/albums/songs ?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:23 pm to
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But seriously, what are some of your favorite artists/albums/songs ?


Pink Floyd
Alice In Chains
Prince
Joe Bonamassa
Queen
Lamb of God
Jonny Lang
David Gilmour
Richie Kotzen
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Stevie Wonder
Black Label Society
Lenny Kravitz
All that Remains
Gary Moore
SRV
Tool
Pantera
Van Halen
Clapton
Hendrix
Michael Jackson
Kenny Wayne Shepherd
Guns N Roses
Metallica
The Eagles
Candlebox
ZZ Top
Rush
Cream
and many many more...
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 1:26 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:24 pm to
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this thread is just more proof that bobbyray has even worse tastes in music than the doc
You're commenting on taste?

Turns out, you're mostly right though.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21591 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:28 pm to
I like a lot of those too.

The Pink Floyd influence is clearly heard on the spacier parts of OK Computer like "The Tourist" and "Subterrnean Homesick Alien." Kid A in general is what Floyd 2000 would sound like, or at least an idea of it, IMO.

Hell Pink Floyd did some of the first rock electronic experimentation on "On the Run"

Eta: although I do agree Greenwood doesnt match up to Gilmour. Gilmour probably has my favorite tone of all time (next to Hendrix's in "Burning of the Midnight Lamp")
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 1:30 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:33 pm to
Yea, we can at least agree on all that. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers. Everyone likes what they like. All I meant by this entire ordeal is that I dont understand how they get the love and respect that they do. If Radiohead is someones favorite band, then more power to them. Im sure there are alot of people that dont understand some of the extreme metal I listen to.
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 1:37 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87366 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:34 pm to
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ruffle any feathers
We have jimmies here.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21591 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:35 pm to
The Beatles are my favorite band (by a long shot). There are quite a few tied up at the number 2 spot.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:36 pm to
I enjoy the Beatles.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:44 pm to
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this thread is just more proof that bobbyray has even worse tastes in music than the doc


I'm clearly in your head.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:45 pm to
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I'm clearly in your head.


Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21591 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:45 pm to
Bobbygeigh
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87366 posts
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:47 pm to
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The Beatles are my favorite band (by a long shot).
Oh wow...
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