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re: Tyler Childers sounds like Turnpike Troubadours
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:32 am to DownSouthJukin
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:32 am to DownSouthJukin
Two more downvotes baby
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:20 am to BregmansWheelbarrow
If Tyler Childers sucks, then there is no good country music at all today.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:02 am to AlxTgr
That could very well be the case.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:35 pm to DownSouthJukin
Quick question Mr. Jukin,
What do you think of Childers as a writer?
What do you think of Childers as a writer?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:51 pm to DownSouthJukin
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If Tyler Childers sucks, then there is no good country music at all today.
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That could very well be the case.
Sounds like you’re just getting old.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 3:00 pm to diddlydawg7
I want you to pick the 3 best Tyler Childers and Josh Ritter songs and link them up here. I think I've listened to everyone you have sent me in the past, but I will listen, again.
Here is my honest assessment of what I have heard so far on Tyler Childers:
Tyler Childers doesn't write or sing or sound any better than any other "Americana" or country artist right now that isn't bro country. If he is even average, then I pity what the below average might be. I just attempted to listen to another one of his songs: All Your'n. Musically the song isn't much. Lyrically, it tries too hard and eventually just comes off as a generic love song packaged up with different words that sound cool to the young, hip music people because it talks about drugs (dude!) and is supposedly the opposite of bro country. And I think it was nominated for an award.
Maybe I'm getting old, but this whiny country bumpkin new age stuff just doesn't do it for me.
Here is a partial list of better "Americana" singers and/or songwriters in my humble opinion, and in no particular order:
Chris Knight
Darrell Scott
Townes Van Zandt
Steve Earle
Tony Joe White
Guy Clark
Robert Earl Keen
Sturgill Simpson
Cary Hudson
And I don't care what they think of Tyler Childers.
Here is my honest assessment of what I have heard so far on Tyler Childers:
Tyler Childers doesn't write or sing or sound any better than any other "Americana" or country artist right now that isn't bro country. If he is even average, then I pity what the below average might be. I just attempted to listen to another one of his songs: All Your'n. Musically the song isn't much. Lyrically, it tries too hard and eventually just comes off as a generic love song packaged up with different words that sound cool to the young, hip music people because it talks about drugs (dude!) and is supposedly the opposite of bro country. And I think it was nominated for an award.
Maybe I'm getting old, but this whiny country bumpkin new age stuff just doesn't do it for me.
Here is a partial list of better "Americana" singers and/or songwriters in my humble opinion, and in no particular order:
Chris Knight
Darrell Scott
Townes Van Zandt
Steve Earle
Tony Joe White
Guy Clark
Robert Earl Keen
Sturgill Simpson
Cary Hudson
And I don't care what they think of Tyler Childers.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 3:43 pm to DownSouthJukin
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I just attempted to listen to another one of his songs: All Your'n.
All Your’n is probably one of his worst. It’s perceived as popular because it snuck on to some of the pop-country playlists and radio stations.
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I want you to pick the 3 best Tyler Childers and Josh Ritter songs and link them up here.
Ok.
Tyler Childers:
1. Follow You To Virgie
2. Charleston Girl (Live)
3. Deadman’s Curve (Live) (I think you will like this one most)
And for Josh Ritter, these are not my top 3. My top 3 are more on the slow side and you probably won’t love that.
Also, Josh Ritter is not really country. He’s been around so long he has kind of switched genres multiple times. I’d say he put out 5 folk records, 2 rock records, one Acoustic, and 2 Americana.
MonsterBallads can chime in on this too. He has been a Ritter fan far longer than me and his username is literally the name of a Ritter Song.
Josh Ritter is an incredible songwriter. Just ridiculously impressive lyrics. I’d describe him as Bob Dylan mixed with Paul Simon.
Josh Ritter:
1. To the Dogs or Whoever
2. Where the Night Goes
3. Golden Age of Radio
Josh Ritter is an interesting musician. He is relatively unknown but has done big things. He wrote every song but one on Bob Weir’s Blue Mountain album. He wrote a few Songs for Joan Baez. Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit recorded and produced his last album. Isbell plays guitar on a number of tracks and so does Shires on the fiddle.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 3:45 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Here is a partial list of better "Americana" singers and/or songwriters in my humble opinion, and in no particular order:
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Townes Van Zandt
dead
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Tony Joe White
dead
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Guy Clark
also dead
Posted on 6/30/20 at 3:58 pm to monsterballads
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dead
I was going to go with living, but I couldn't deny the talent of some of the dead ones. Just because a musician is dead does not make him irrelevant to this conversation. And even dead, these guys are greater talents than Tyler Childers.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:21 pm to diddlydawg7
I’ve listened to those Tyler Childers songs (for the second time now). I’ll summarize:
Drugs. Women. Alcohol. Places. Faux twang.
Say something about all five, add a generic old time guitar, fiddle and banjo sound and you have a Tyler Childers song. It beats rap, pop and bro country, I guess, so it’s good the younger generation is listening to it. Maybe it will open their ears to that kind of music, past and present, as opposed to the mostly garbage that’s shoved through the radio/streaming services at them.
I’ll get to John Ritter tonight.
Drugs. Women. Alcohol. Places. Faux twang.
Say something about all five, add a generic old time guitar, fiddle and banjo sound and you have a Tyler Childers song. It beats rap, pop and bro country, I guess, so it’s good the younger generation is listening to it. Maybe it will open their ears to that kind of music, past and present, as opposed to the mostly garbage that’s shoved through the radio/streaming services at them.
I’ll get to John Ritter tonight.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:33 pm to DownSouthJukin
Faux twang? The dude is from backwoods Kentucky 
And he’s a hell of a writer. He’s the best writer in non mainstream country genre’d music right now for his age.
And he’s a hell of a writer. He’s the best writer in non mainstream country genre’d music right now for his age.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:35 pm to monsterballads
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Faux twang? The dude is from backwoods Kentucky
Yes. And Kid Rock is from a trailer park. And Midland is from Texas.
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He’s the best writer in non mainstream country genre’d music right now for his age.
That’s not saying much.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:57 pm to DownSouthJukin
What in the hell separates faux twang from real twang?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:00 pm to monsterballads
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Faux twang? The dude is from backwoods Kentucky
And his father was a coal miner. He has to be trolling at this point. He’s as authentic as it gets.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:08 pm to diddlydawg7
One more for you:
Bottles and Bibles
If you say this is faux-country or whatever, you’re just trolling. This song could’ve come out 40 years ago and you’d have no clue.
I’m not sure why you think kids listen to Tyler Childers. They don’t, trust me. The average age of TD is probably 45, and they are clearly fans.
As for the comments about drinking, drugs, women, etc., that makes literally no sense. He’s writing about his experiences as well as his family’s growing up in Kentucky.
Also, that’s literally what country music is. Drugs, drinking, and women. That’s what Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, Townes Van Zandt, and basically every country artists sang about. So you are saying he is fake for singing these things, but if he weren’t singing about it you’d just say it’s not real country music.
GTFO my lawn.
Bottles and Bibles
If you say this is faux-country or whatever, you’re just trolling. This song could’ve come out 40 years ago and you’d have no clue.
I’m not sure why you think kids listen to Tyler Childers. They don’t, trust me. The average age of TD is probably 45, and they are clearly fans.
As for the comments about drinking, drugs, women, etc., that makes literally no sense. He’s writing about his experiences as well as his family’s growing up in Kentucky.
Also, that’s literally what country music is. Drugs, drinking, and women. That’s what Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, Townes Van Zandt, and basically every country artists sang about. So you are saying he is fake for singing these things, but if he weren’t singing about it you’d just say it’s not real country music.
GTFO my lawn.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:14 pm to diddlydawg7
More things to add:
Follow You to Virgie is literally a true story. He wrote it for his friend who died in high school. So all the lyrics in there are 100% true. It’s impossible for them to be “fake”. He’s not just throwing them in for the hell of it.
Also, I went to a Tyler Childers concert. Most of the people there were older than you. Not sure why you think it’s the “younger generation” listening to him.
Follow You to Virgie is literally a true story. He wrote it for his friend who died in high school. So all the lyrics in there are 100% true. It’s impossible for them to be “fake”. He’s not just throwing them in for the hell of it.
Also, I went to a Tyler Childers concert. Most of the people there were older than you. Not sure why you think it’s the “younger generation” listening to him.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:05 pm to DownSouthJukin
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they both suck.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:22 pm to thatguy45
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:03 pm to diddlydawg7
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What in the hell separates faux twang from real twang?
Some day, when you are older, you will learn the concept of the durr durr, or fake hick. The town I grew up in isn't big, but we had our fair share.
They'd force a twang in their voice to sound more country, or in your case southern. Why? I dont know. Theyd also wear retarded looking cowboy boots, curl the bill of their hats until it was almost a burrito, put fish hooks on them, and one even had some sorta yell he'd do. It was stupid. We weren't urbanites but, we weren't even close to the mason Dixon line. Was goofy.
Best example I can give you that you might understand is an actor doing a fake southern accent. Take said actor, now apply the overdone accent to all facets of life: clothing, vehicle, mannerisms, vocabulary, baby's first chew (just a little pinch, more might lead to an actual buzz), etc. That is what (i think) jukin is getting at. He lays his country persona on thick, which is expected cause marketing but can be annoying because it's not entirely real
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:21 pm to thatguy45
I’m from a small town. I grew up on a farm. I dipped snuff for 24 years. I can ride a horse. I can clean a deer. I drive a pick up. I can yuck it up with the best of them.
I also have an advanced degree.
Tyler Childers is paid to act a certain way. He does a good job of it.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 10:28 pm
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