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Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:33 am to
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TAB blows

Oh, is that the other simple-minded Gump that posts here? My B.

Anywho, I like Jack White and his music. Agree to disagree, I guess.
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:36 am to
Jack has done an amazing job of pulling some "has been"s out…Loretta Lynn and Wanda Jackson, for example. His Third Man Records has also put out some really good shite, like Neil Young's recent acoustic album. Jack's been doing work over the past few years with his record company.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:56 am to
Rock music could use more trite and banal knuckleheads and a lot less pretentious musical "geniuses" who only seem like good musicians because they are being compared to other musicians who play the simplest music on earth.

Simplicity isn't a bug of rock/pop music, it is a feature. If it can't be played by four kids in a garage, it's probably a terrible rock/pop song.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:59 am to
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Rock music could use more trite and banal knuckleheads and a lot less pretentious musical "geniuses" who only seem like good musicians because they are being compared to other musicians who play the simplest music on earth.


The geniuses are the ones pushing the art form. Jack White and his ilk are stagnant, and whats the point of art that doesn't evolve?

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If it can't be played by four kids in a garage, it's probably a terrible rock/pop song.


Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:05 am to
i know you're trolling, but if you listen to jack's first cd with the stripes and listen to anything from his solo stuff, you can't tell me with a straight face that he hasn't evolved.

also, trite and banal are synonyms. if you're going to try to use big words, at least use two that don't mean the same thing
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:09 am to
They aren't pushing shite. All they are doing is intense navel gazing that goes nowhere and calling it boundary pushing. No, it's just being a crappy songwriter. And jam bands are just circling over well-trod ground of the past 40 years. It's trying to recreate Haight-Ashbury. Jam bands are essentially step backwards from free-form jazz. Charlie Parker blows their doors off, if we want inward navel gazing.

And how isn't Jack White pushing the form forward? You may not like it, but the White Stripes completely stripped down rock to its bare essentials, a guitar and a drums. It's the musical equivalent of Dogme 95, the cinematic vow of chastity. He moved the form forward by taking elements out and trying to create music without any extraneous motion. It's incredibly interesting from a theoretical standpoint. What are the base components of pop music?

He's played in fairly divergent bands, stylistically. The Dead Weather is pretty dissimilar from the White Stripes. He's shown an instinct for reinventing his music repeatedly.

Phish is still churning out essentially the same crap they were 30 years ago. they haven't moved forward an inch. They are a highbrow version of the Insane Clown Posse, playing niche music for their fellow cultists.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:10 am to
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i know you're trolling, but if you listen to jack's first cd with the stripes and listen to anything from his solo stuff, you can't tell me with a straight face that he hasn't evolved.


He may be evolving in his world of stuff that has been done over and over again, but that doesnt mean he is evolving music.

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also, trite and banal are synonyms


No they aren't. Trite means something is overused and lacks importance. Banal means something isn't original and is boring.

Next time you try and correct someones vocabulary, maybe know what the meanings of the words are.
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:13 am to
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Jack White and his ilk are stagnant, and whats the point of art that doesn't evolve?

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He may be evolving in his world of stuff that has been done over and over again

I don't think you even know what you're arguing any more. "Evolving in his world of stuff that has been done over and over again". WAT?

Just stop.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 11:14 am
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:14 am to
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They aren't pushing shite.




Ya, people like Win Butler, James Murphy, and Chris Thile aren't doing anything for the art form that is music.

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And jam bands are just circling over well-trod ground of the past 40 years.


Jam bands suck

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You may not like it, but the White Stripes completely stripped down rock to its bare essentials, a guitar and a drums.


Oh, they pushed music forward by taking it back 100 years. Got it.

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Phish is still churning out essentially the same crap they were 30 years ago




You clearly have no knowledge of their music.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41262 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:14 am to
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He's played in fairly divergent bands, stylistically.


shite, the Raconteurs have bluegrass songs out. and he played guitar in Wanda Jackson's band for a bit.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:15 am to
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I don't think you even know what you're arguing any more. "Evolving in his world of stuff that has been done over and over again". WAT?


Ya, I guess thats a good point. One cant evolve in stuff that has been done so many times. You got me there. Jack White hasnt evolved music at all.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:16 am to
You're a helplessly bad troll.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:17 am to
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You're a helplessly bad troll.


Ahhh, so I am a troll because I have a different opinion than yours. Solid post.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:17 am to
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Phish is still churning out essentially the same crap they were 30 years ago. they haven't moved forward an inch.


Not really.

They have shifted from psychedelic prog rock to a more rock-based platform (known to some as "dad rock") as far as studio output goes. On stage they still transcend genres from prog to rock to funk to reggae to blues.

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They are a highbrow version of the Insane Clown Posse, playing niche music for their fellow cultists


Couldn't you say that about any band that has a cult following?
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
40153 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:19 am to
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Ahhh, so I am a troll because I have a different opinion than yours.

No, you're a troll because you say stupid shite like Jack White's music is all the same. That's objectively inaccurate.

Maybe you're just dumb and not a troll.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:19 am to
I didnt say it was all the same, just that he brings nothing new to the table. He's the ACDC if this generation.

quote:

Maybe you're just dumb and not a troll.




Oh, you mad. Which I dont understand why my opinons upset you so much. I didnt realize I have that much influence over yall. Pretty cool.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 11:21 am
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:20 am to
Phish is extremely popular outside of their wook cult. They are even beginning to be big in the frat scene.

Can't say the same about ICP
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:21 am to
Did this turn into a phish thread?
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:22 am to
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 11:23 am to
Well your a festizio!
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