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re: The sad state of music today

Posted on 4/23/23 at 12:54 am to
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 12:54 am to
I've been hearing music is dead since I was a teen in the 90s just starting out on drums. It always finds a way to reinvent itself.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 1:33 am to
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No it isn’t, this is literally just another example of the older generations bitching about the younger people. Everyone’s generation’s music was the best ever and anything after that sucks.


I’m 41 and listen to all kinds of music. There’s a lot of good music being made today but there’s no bands that have come out in the last couple years that peak my interest.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36089 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 8:21 am to
I was watching Rick Beato just recently and he was going through the Spotify Top 10 and he basically said most of the pop music today is essentially the same layout working off roughly 2 chords ....sometimes 3 and the same beat.

Essentially 3 tracks out of the top 10 could be construed as what had been defined in the past as "songs". The rest is a mash up of beats and random sounds.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 10:22 am to
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I've been hearing music is dead since I was a teen in the 90s just starting out on drums. It always finds a way to reinvent itself.



music has always been bad


i think probably the main thing wrong with it is there got to be too much money involved

nobody can put out more than like 4 good songs in their life. and good music comes from a place of pain. Nobody that was happy ever wrote a good song

when you take dudes off the street and make them famous and give them tons of money their music goes to shite. Look at the beatles. do you think a garbage song like imagine would've gotten big if they weren't famous already
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
6782 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 10:35 am to
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Gaucho


Either A) you’re not a music guy, or B) you’re just a troll… I think you should just maybe lay off listening to music for awhile? I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you’re simply ignorant to what’s good or bad. If I’m right you get a pass, but either way, you shouldn’t listen to music anymore. Just do something else.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13536 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 10:41 am to
Sleaford Mods
Amyl & the Sniffers
Wet Leg
make it less sad
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:40 am to
I don’t listen to music because it messes up my songwriting process

I don’t really have favorite bands but I’d say if I had to choose I’d probably pick The Beach Boys as best ever. Jimmy buffet #2 neutral milk hotel #3 songs ohia/magnolia electric co #4 maybe like springsteen #5? It’s hard to name 5 great bands


I’ve been a performing musician for like 15 years. I’ve earned my stripes

They should rename this forum to dadrock and jam bands board

ETA: Paul Simon

ETA2: music is a numbers game

We hear what gets big which is an idea some kids have and then it gets engineered by tastemakers to “pop”

Popular music has always been bad and if you look and the charts during the “good” times like the 70s it was still mostly crap but most of it has passed out of our public consciousness. But even the “good” bands from back then aren’t that great and the reason we consider them good now is because they had pr machines trying to rebox their songs to us in the 90s and 00s

Seals and Crofts and the mamas and papas had a lot of hits but nobody tried to resell them to us in the death throes of the cd age so nobody remembers them

The reason y’all like the Beatles so much is because Michael Jackson bought their masters and made a bunch of money off of them in the 90s

I forgot to mention that the oak ridge boys are equal standing to beach boys on my Mount Rushmore of music
This post was edited on 4/23/23 at 11:55 am
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 11:41 am to
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Wet Leg

Girl band/diversity hire
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
6782 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 12:29 pm to
Yeah but see, what you’re missing is this: you are not the final authority on what’s good or bad. People like different things…that’s why some go to church while others go to barrooms.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/23/23 at 12:33 pm to
Yeah but you can do both and there are standards of what’s good and bad but I think we can all agree what’s considered “good” needs to be rethunk
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30983 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 12:48 pm to
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I don’t listen to music because it messes up my songwriting process

I'm kind of like this too. Only listen to a local radio station that plays a very eclectic mix of music, when me and my daughter are doing stuff together, and check out some links from this board when they are posted, and when I just can't stand to play guitar anymore.
If I'm driving, I'm always trying to write and looking around for song ideas, no phone and no radio.
You can get a lot of ideas from billboards and local advertising. Even from some of the silly fairytale cartoons that my daughter watches.
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
6782 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 1:58 pm to
Awesome…so guys who “never listen to music” are lecturing the rest of about what constitutes good music…makes perfect sense.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12797 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 1:59 pm to
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No it isn’t, this is literally just another example of the older generations bitching about the younger people. Everyone’s generation’s music was the best ever and anything after that sucks.


But plenty of people have said they don’t even prefer their era of music. Man, the Mexican food in this area sucks. No it doesn’t, you’re just old! Man, our politicians are straight trash. No they aren’t, you’re just old!

Such a lazy, piss poor argument when someone has zero insight on the subject.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30983 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Awesome…so guys who “never listen to music” are lecturing the rest of about what constitutes good music…makes perfect sense.


I don't think I've lectured about anything, except maybe an observation of the fact that people don't put as much time and effort into their craft anymore.
Also, I clearly said, and have demonstrated on here many times, that I do check out links posted on this board, and if I like it, I will dive deeper.
This post was edited on 4/23/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
6782 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 2:29 pm to
You are correct auggie and I apologize…my frustrated comment should have been aimed specifically at gaucho…he searches out the most successful music ever, commercially speaking, and then shits on it…I get that’s his game, but still…preferring Elvira over Imagine SHOULD have told me all I needed to know.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30983 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 2:35 pm to
It's OK man, it's just a forum for discussion and killing time. I don't take much too seriously here, or anywhere else on the internet.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69399 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Either A) you’re not a music guy, or B) you’re just a troll…


How does anyone on this site not know the El gaucho is the best troll on this site? In addition, he’s also a really funny song writer
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51649 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 3:11 pm to
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Such a lazy, piss poor argument when someone has zero insight on the subject.

No your comparison is awful, food can taste bad to other and good to the rest, unless it’s expired or poorly cooked. And the politicians one is straight trash, just accept that you’re old and today’s music doesn’t appeal to you.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12797 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 6:29 pm to
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No your comparison is awful, food can taste bad to other and good to the rest, unless it’s expired or poorly cooked. And the politicians one is straight trash, just accept that you’re old and today’s music doesn’t appeal to you.



I listen to plenty of modern music. But I can also recognize the current problems within the music industry and radio, and explain why it’s happening, just like me and others already have earlier itt.

Yours is I think it’s just a bunch of old men shaking their fists in the air! It’s sophomoric and weak as frick.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58532 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 6:38 pm to
Leaving Louisiana in the broad daylight goes toe to toe with anything the beatles did
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