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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:47 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:47 pm
I have a question for the board. Is Johnny Cash a good singer? I mean do you believe his vocals is what got him famous, or was it his songwriting and storytelling? Or was it just only his image?

The reason I ask this is because I heard people say that he can't sing and they don't understand why he got so famous.

Do you think the critics are correct that he can't sing? Or maybe they have no idea what they are talking about?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:50 pm to
I would rather listen to him than many of this board's favorites, such as:

Geddy Lee
Robert Plant
Brad Delp

And many others listed in the Best Singers thread
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:00 pm to
His voice is distinctive, he’s a good singer and songwriter.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:19 pm to
His voice type is that of a bass-baritone which means he is a low baritone that can dip into some bass notes.

Joaquin Phoenix said that he struggled to sing like Cash because he couldn't hit his lower notes until one day after much practice he did.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21173 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:28 pm to
Cash wrote Ring of Fire.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21173 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:55 am to
All three of those are tenors and excel at the higher octaves and just so much different than the voice of Cash who is much better hitting the lower octaves.
Posted by CSATiger
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:33 am to
Songwriter(s)

June Carter Merle Kilgore
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1747 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:43 am to
He may not be technically great but when you hear his voice you by God stop and listen to what he’s saying. You can’t help it.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 8:43 am
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63453 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:49 am to
It was the whole package. Nobody sounded like he did, and his voice was perfect for his songs. You believed every word. And yes, he was a great writer.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:10 am to
It's not always about having a good singing voice. Many times it's about a good SOUNDING voice that is unique. Cash isn't a good singer, but he has such an interesting sounding voice that sucks you in. Billy Corgan is another example.

What separates Cash is his songwriting ability and melody creations, and his unique voice adds to that. John Prine falls into this category as well.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63453 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:44 am to
John Prine is criminally under- appreciated.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Geddy Lee
Robert Plant
Brad Delp
You truly suck.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21173 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:29 am to
Yes but according to his first wife Vivian, Cash told her it was his idea with Merle Kilgore and that he wanted to give June Carter half credit since she was in some financial trouble.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 10:44 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24495 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:46 am to
quote:

John Prine is criminally under- appreciated.



absolutely. Growing up I was unfamiliar with him yet knew a lot of his songs due to them often being covered. In my adult years I finally discovered him, and what a treasure he is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:47 am to
Yes

His voice fits his message. Its not smooth, but its not supposed to be.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21173 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 12:17 pm to
Cash only took three voice lessons. His instructor told he had no need for anymore voice lessons.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21173 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:40 pm to
I disagree.

Cash is a good singer with a low baritone voice that conveys his sad, serious and depressing songs.

How many do you see in country music or in other genres that could sing like Cash? The only other I can think of is Josh Turner who due to his deep voice was able to dominate country music for a short period of time.

Those type of voices are unique as they aren't as common as other voice types.

This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 10:57 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27862 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Yes but according to his first wife Vivian, Cash told her it was his idea with Merle Kilgore and that he wanted to give June Carter half credit since she was in some financial trouble.


and he was in a bad publishing deal.
Ol' Merle has credit on quite a few great songs.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21173 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:13 am to
Apparently Vivian didn't like June Carter.
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