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re: Sabbath Vs. Zeppelin

Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Sabotage vs. PG


Coincidentally, my two all time favorite albums. Just total perfection.


Both are great, but I have Sabotage ahead unless you factor in the number of songs.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:42 pm to
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Both are great, but I have Sabotage ahead unless you factor in the number of songs.


Obviously you are not factoring in the quality of songs

Sabotage is heavy a.f. but there is nothing on it like Kashmir, Sick Again, Ten Years Gone, In My Time of Dying....I could go on and on.....

Physical Graffiti beats out Sabotage hands down
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:17 pm to
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Kashmir, Sick Again, Ten Years Gone, In My Time of Dying....I could go on and on.....


Ten Years Gone is awesome but you can go on and on mainly because it is a double album. I'm not saying PG isn't great, but it has a number of songs i don't care for unlike I, II, IV and Houses of the Holy (minus the Crunge, which belonged on PG).
Posted by Pepe Lepew
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:20 pm to
Black
Sabbath
Posted by Morgus
The Old City Icehouse
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 9:24 pm to
Even when you remove the covers (the one gripe people have with Zeppelin and vastly exaggerated in number) they still had more stone cold classics than anyone outside of the Beatles.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:10 am to
If you could come up with some truly objective way to measure how 'good' bands are, LZ would beat out Sabbath every time for a lot of reasons.

But I'm really torn here. And I think its because they are so different. I like both for what they are.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 3:23 pm to
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Kashmir

That song tripped me out the first time I heard it and have loved it ever since.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 4:59 pm to
The Stones recorded more stone cold classics before Zeppelin even formed. Look at their catalog from 1963 to 1969.

Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:45 pm to
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What a crappy comparison???


This.

Almost no one thinks Sabbath is better or that Iommi is better than Page. That doesn't detract from Sabbath's greatness, despite Keith Richards' asinine opinion. Might as well ask if the Beatles were better than Tears for Fears.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:12 am to
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in that genre


Are we still pretending that Led Zeppelin was metal in some way?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41899 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:23 am to
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Are we still pretending that Led Zeppelin was metal in some way?



Aw, look at you trying to be all edgy and stuff.
Posted by Johnny Carson
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:33 am to
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The Stones recorded more stone cold classics before Zeppelin even formed. Look at their catalog from 1963 to 1969.


The majority of which are cover tunes. The Rolling Stones "World's Greatest Blues Cover Band" is more accurate. In their current iteration "The Rolling Stones Geriatric Cover Band" is their status.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12731 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:39 am to
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The majority of which are cover tunes. The Rolling Stones "World's Greatest Blues Cover Band"


Aftermath and Between the Buttons do not have any covers and Beggar's Banquet only has one.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:52 am to
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Aw, look at you trying to be all edgy and stuff.


Edgy? I love both bands and would pick LZ over Sabbath if I was forced to (but I'm not). Led Zeppelin was not metal, though. They may have influenced a lot of metal bands, but that doesn't make Blind Lemon Johnson a rock musician.

Blue Oyster Cult is a much more interesting comp to Sabbath.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:54 am to
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By albums:

Black Sabbath vs. I = LZ
Paranoid vs. II =BS (this BS is perfection)
Master of Reality vs. III =BS (but close as both a bit of a let down)
Vol. 4 vs. IV =LZ and not really close
Sabbath B.S. vs. HOH =LZ
Sabotage vs. PG =BS (another awesome entry by BS and PG has some throw away material but lots of songs)
Technical Ecstasy vs. Presence =LZ

Pretty close by album and a tie if you leave off their respective seventh albums.


I feel like you've waited 30 years to make this exact post.
Posted by randybobandy
NOLA
Member since Mar 2015
2054 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:58 pm to
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Never a big fan of Zep but after learning of their thievery, kinda soured on them.


Yeah same here. Zeppelin sounds just like Willie Dixon to me too. especially Physical Graffiti and Houses of the Holy. I also heard that stairway is a total ripoff of an unknown song by Spirit that was in the same key (a minor) and had a similar descending bass line. Total thieves, just talentless hacks who never wrote anything origional.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12731 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 2:16 pm to
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I feel like you've waited 30 years to make this exact post.


No but i was having a discussion recently about the top ten bands of all time and i came up w/ the somewhat arbitrary requirement that each one have at least six great albums so i was thinking about that.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17203 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:12 pm to
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The majority of which are cover tunes. The Rolling Stones "World's Greatest Blues Cover Band" is more accurate. In their current iteration "The Rolling Stones Geriatric Cover Band" is their status.


...and they weren't sued by the original artists because they claimed they wrote them. They gave them credit.

However, I agree with your current take on them. IMO they haven't done anything interesting since Voodoo Lounge.

I take that back. A Bigger Bang had a handful of solid tracks on it.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Bayou Warrior 64
Member since Feb 2021
723 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:42 pm to
Z E P P E L I N

not even close
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5827 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:16 pm to
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Almost no one thinks Sabbath is better


Then almost no one is correct

quote:

Might as well ask if the Beatles were better than Tears for Fears.


I agree that there's no need to directly compare black Sabbath and Zeppelin, but this is a particularly dumb analogy.
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