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re: REM
Posted on 1/27/17 at 5:53 am to BigOrangeBri
Posted on 1/27/17 at 5:53 am to BigOrangeBri
quote:Not for not liking a band. For your posting content.
Because I don't care for a particular band? I'm not the one calling someone stupid for not liking a band
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 6:00 am to Zappas Stache
I disagree. I think they started to go downhill after New Adventures.
Their IRS records are undeniable in my opinion. It's hard to make one good album. They made 5 in a row. Regardless if you don't like their later output (which I think is a shame), that's pretty impressive.
Their IRS records are undeniable in my opinion. It's hard to make one good album. They made 5 in a row. Regardless if you don't like their later output (which I think is a shame), that's pretty impressive.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 6:33 am to BigOrangeBri
BigOrange,
Just curious - were you born after '80?
Sometimes it's easier to "get" bands at certain points in your life. I discovered R.E.M. when I was about 15, but cannot imagine what a first listen of Murmur sounds like today.
Just curious - were you born after '80?
Sometimes it's easier to "get" bands at certain points in your life. I discovered R.E.M. when I was about 15, but cannot imagine what a first listen of Murmur sounds like today.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 8:43 am to BigOrangeBri
I think REM is/was a great Band.Great Songs.Great harmonizing.
I'm not concerned or interested in a Bands Political or Social views.
I'm not concerned or interested in a Bands Political or Social views.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 2:22 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Not for not liking a band. For your posting content.
That's not what his post indicated. His post said I probably didn't have the mental capacity to "get" the band, so you're wrong.
Like REM is some some genius, sophisticated music that only a few Mensa members can comprehend. Lol
Posted on 1/27/17 at 2:25 pm to sertorius
quote:
BigOrange,
Just curious - were you born after '80?
Sometimes it's easier to "get" bands at certain points in your life. I discovered R.E.M. when I was about 15, but cannot imagine what a first listen of Murmur sounds like today.
Yes I was born in the 80s and admittedly didn't her them until they got big in the 90s.
I would be open to listening to their early stuff if anyone wants to recommend their best album or two
Posted on 1/27/17 at 2:34 pm to BigOrangeBri
quote:
I would be open to listening to their early stuff if anyone wants to recommend their best album or two
just pick one or all from murmur to document. if you dont like any of those then you just dont like REM's music, regardless if you agree with them politically or not...
Posted on 1/27/17 at 2:56 pm to The Seaward
quote:
I like REM a lot. I'm sure I don't agree with Stipe on every political issue, but I really don't care.
this. I understand the OPs point about Stipe's attitude and political beliefs. But if I enjoy the music who cares what the artist thinks? They are a great band IMO. Whether they are tree hugging, narcissistic libtards is irrelevant.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 3:01 pm to cgrand
quote:
I would be open to listening to their early stuff if anyone wants to recommend their best album or two
Dead Letter Office
Fables of the Reconstruction
Reckoning
Life's Rich Pagent
pick one or all
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 1/27/17 at 3:48 pm to NimbleCat
quote:
EVERYTHING after Out of Time was Garbage IMO.
Change it to Around the Sun, and I agree with you. Some of those albums are spotty (only about half of Monster is worth a shite) but there are some real gems on everything right up to Reveal. New Adventures in Hi-Fi and Up are excellent albums.
Confession: I didn't get into REM until Document. I eventually bought all of the earlier IRS albums, but if I'm gonna listen to REM, I'm more likely to put on Document, Green or Out of Time. (If I were a relief pitcher, my walk-up song would be "Strange").
Posted on 1/27/17 at 3:50 pm to Baloo
quote:
we shifted era from "punk" to "post-punk".
Maybe I am misunderstanding you and please tell me if I am (you are one of the few I truly believes know more about music than me). Post punk...I would not categorize them in that, as it's not just an era, but also a sound -- Suicide, Television, The Cure, Sisters of Mercy, The Cult's first two and a half albums, March Violets, AU pairs, etc etc were THAT sound.
You mentioned it and I believe in the states especially, that there just became a true college/alternative sound that did not derive from Great Britain...the Pixies, REM, The Smithereens, The Violet Femmes, et al had a sound that differed greatly from the bands I mentioned above.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 1/27/17 at 3:59 pm to BigOrangeBri
quote:
Yes I was born in the 80s and admittedly didn't her them until they got big in the 90s.
If you are of a certain age and from the South, REM means something different. They were unique at the epicenter of what was going on then. Alternative before the phrase was even coined.
A little ecstasy and college coeds enhanced the experience.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 6:34 pm to BigOrangeBri
Their first full album, Murmur, while not my personal favorite (Fables), is the one that would be considered most influential - I think. It was a different time. There was no Indie, it was College Rock. It was not heard on the radio. My friend, when he first heard a song from their second album, said he heard a new band that had quite a bit of acoustics. That gives you an idea of how things were different. He heard a Rickenbacher. Different time. Check out Murmur and tell us what you think. It's all mood and mumbles.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 12:13 am to sertorius
quote:
It's all mood and mumbles
And you nailed it. REM music was about the atmosphere of the south. When I listened to those early albums I could taste the ligustrum and smell the pine but still couldn't see what was going on a half mile behind that dense green. To me they are the greatest southern rock band because of this.And I won't argue with you about Fables.....Great album.....Murmur, Reckoning and Fables may be the greatest 3 releases ever.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:17 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:
Dead Letter Office
One of my favorites.Voice of Harold is a great song.
Voice of Harold
My favorite REM Song is probably World Leader Pretend.
World Leader Pretend
This post was edited on 1/28/17 at 8:28 am
Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:58 am to BigOrangeBri
Back in college, I wore out many of the earlier REM albums. But nowadays, I gotta say New Adventures has aged the most gracefully IMO. That's not meant to be a knock on the rest of their catalog... but for me, that album has slowly risen to the top over the years.
This post was edited on 1/28/17 at 8:59 am
Posted on 1/28/17 at 9:21 am to vandelay industries
quote:
I gotta say New Adventures has aged the most gracefully IMO
I like a lot of stuff on New Adventures. I also like the fact that many songs on there are recorded live, whether at sound check or one (maybe two) in concert with the crowd track obviously not used.
Monster was well, a monster of an album IMO. I like many of their songs early and late but like with any artist, I could do without the politics - just entertain me.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 2:07 pm to BigOrangeBri
REMs run from Chronic Town to Green is artistically the most consistently great body of work that rock music has to offer, bar none IMO. But I do have a theory that if you weren't there firsthand as it was happening it may not seem quite as good.
To me there was a sort of magical atmosphere surrounding their music and the associated scene. The "mystical" aspect that so many detractors find pretentious was a lot of the appeal. Never was there a better application of "You had to be there".
To me there was a sort of magical atmosphere surrounding their music and the associated scene. The "mystical" aspect that so many detractors find pretentious was a lot of the appeal. Never was there a better application of "You had to be there".
Posted on 1/28/17 at 2:30 pm to RockAndRollDetective
quote:
To me there was a sort of magical atmosphere surrounding their music and the associated scene. The "mystical" aspect that so many detractors find pretentious was a lot of the appeal. Never was there a better application of "You had to be there".
You just nailed it better than any professional critic or commentator I've read. Absolutely dead on synopsis.
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