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Question for the Bass Players

Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:43 pm
Posted by SaintlyTiger88
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
1975 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:43 pm
I have a question for the Bass Guitar Players of the MB. How difficult was it for you to become proficient at playing the bass? Were there some road blocks you encountered that made it somewhat a frustrating learning experience? If you also play guitar, how similar was it to learning guitar? What were the differences?

I’m interesting in possibly trying out bass guitar and see how I do with it. I took guitar lessons years ago and still remember a bit, but I can imagine those lessons won’t do me any favors while learning the bass.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141888 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:56 pm to
"Did you hear about the groupie who was so stupid she banged the bass player?"

"Pete Quaife & I flipped a coin to see who would play the bass. Pete lost." - Kinks lead guitarist Dave Davies
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63291 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 9:16 pm to
Bass is probably the easiest to play. Unfortunately, it's one of the few instruments that's no fun to play standalone. I learned to play bass before playing guitar. You can always tell a guitar player moving to bass because they try to just mimic the guitarist's notes instead of playing along with the drums or going off a beaten path.
Posted by LA Lightning
Member since Jun 2023
148 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:08 pm to
Go for it. Playing bass is so easy that a 9 year old can show you how.

EllenPlaysBass
Posted by Red Boarman
Member since Oct 2023
323 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:35 pm to
The road blocks include the same ones that kept you from being better at guitar. Hand strength and dexterity, tonal acumen, and rhythmic accuracy. If you've got that, the rest is just a shitload of practice. Get to it.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 6:49 am to
youtube is your friend
Posted by Footbaw
Fulshear, TX
Member since Oct 2015
422 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:06 am to
quote:

If you also play guitar, how similar was it to learning guitar? What were the differences?


From a theory and fretboard standpoint, it's pretty much all the same as guitar (if you're playing on a 4 string bass).

The differences lie mainly in the physical/aural aspects like string switching on thicker strings, a heaver instrument overall, getting the right tone that fits the song/music but doesn't get buried under the mix, etc.

There are tons of resources on YouTube/Instagram/TikTok.

Here's a few I follow:

For Lessons:
Andrew Freed
Daric Bennett
BassBuzz
Dan Hawkins

For Covers:
CoverSolutions
Fusilli Jerry
Greg Fairweather
DarthMart
just some basslines
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47603 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:37 am to
quote:


Bass is probably the easiest to play.


If you're doing it right it's not.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10977 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:19 pm to
Easier only in that you are mostly playing single notes. Easier to pick up because you don’t have to learn all those chord fingerings.
To play it well is hard and takes time. You’re rhythm and you have to know how to work within that and keep time and establish a groove. I know a guitar player playing bass in a second because there is no groove.
If you want to sing, playing bass or drums and singing is very hard.

Your job:

A singer makes people sway.

A guitarist makes people nod and move their head.

A drummer makes people tap their feet.

A bass player makes people move their arse!
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Bass is probably the easiest to play. Unfortunately, it's one of the few instruments that's no fun to play standalone.


this is true. I bought a nice Warwick Alien Deluxe acoustic/electric 5 string a few years ago, and it kind of just sits in the corner now. If anyone wants to buy it, hit me up.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17166 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:52 am to
Don't listen to these fools saying bass is easy. Guitar players pick it up and treat it like a guitar. It's not. It's its own instrument. Try playing some Stanley Clarke, Les Claypool, Jaco Pastorius, Victor Wooten, etc. Get the frick outta here with bass is easy to play. That's insulting and lazy.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52505 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Bass is probably the easiest to play. Unfortunately, it's one of the few instruments that's no fun to play standalone. I learned to play bass before playing guitar. You can always tell a guitar player moving to bass because they try to just mimic the guitarist's notes instead of playing along with the drums or going off a beaten path.


All of this.

If you know anything about music, I could teach you to be functional on the bass in an afternoon.

It's probably one of the lowest bars to entry of any musical instrument however like the others have said here, to actually be good at it requires a lot of work.

My advice is that less is usually more when it comes to playing the bass.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63291 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

Don't listen to these fools saying bass is easy. Guitar players pick it up and treat it like a guitar. It's not. It's its own instrument. Try playing some Stanley Clarke, Les Claypool, Jaco Pastorius, Victor Wooten, etc. Get the frick outta here with bass is easy to play. That's insulting and lazy.


Sorry, Colonel Sanders. You're wrong.



/thread
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25313 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:18 am to
It easy to be "ok" but it takes a special person like Phil Lesh to take it to another level....aka the "Phil Zone"

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Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20443 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:08 am to
I love when non musicians comment ignorance on something musically related. The most common ignorant thought is that anybody can just pick up the bass and/or drums. bullshite. Yeah, if you want to sound like a bubblegum high school garage band that might be true.

But you can tell right away when a band is really good because of a solid (and good) rhythm section where the drums and bass both know what the frick they’re doing rather than being shown a few things in an afternoon.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:24 pm to
I have been playing guitar for 54 years but I only took up bass a couple of years ago. And quite frankly, I have pretty much taken to liking bass more than guitar. It was like I almost had an innate feel for being part of the rhythm section.

In response to someone talking about going at bass like a guitar, I absolutely plead guilty to that but I bought a bass that’s kind of conducive to being treated like a guitar, a Hofner violin bass (not the really expensive one or the really cheap one, the kind of “in the middle” one) that has a short scale plus it works much, much better when you use a pick.

I started out just playing the basic notes of the chords, then worked on runs and fills and lines to connect those.

Bass is fun …
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4448 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:39 pm to
Two words: Charles. Berthoud.
Posted by SouthPlains
Member since Jul 2023
502 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

Were there some road blocks you encountered that made it somewhat a frustrating learning experience?


I won’t speak to easy / easier, as learning a few power chords takes about as much time as learning a basic bass line, which is where a lot of people start.

Two challenges and one piece of general advice:

1) learning songs is often challenging because the bass is buried in the mix and difficult to hear; get good headphones or speakers when learning or you’ll go nuts.

2) related to #1 being heard in a band setting live. Bass players disappear tonally for a variety of reasons…guitar players are too fricking loud (usually the case), kick drum is mic’d and cranked, bass players “scoop the mids” because it sounded good in their bedroom, drop tunings and floppy strings, under powered rig, not enough attack. If you’re playing with others, figure out how to live sonically where the kick drum and guitar aren’t already taking up space…think low mids to high mids.

3) general advice -skip Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and whatever your guitarists friends tell you to learn. Learn songs you love and know by heart because it’s so much easier to find the groove and figure out what the bassist was going for and why they made the choices they made. Don’t like Rush, Tool, or RHCP? Then fricking skip it! Play your Motley Crue songs and frick up a bunch, you’ll have a much more fun time learning.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:43 pm to
Let me toss out something else … you might despise simple, old-school 1/4/5 country music stuff but I found that extremely helpful in developing dexterity and precision and keeping time on bass. Get that down to where it’s second nature, then you can get adventurous. “Ring of Fire” is a good one because it’s a brisk song and while it’s simple, it’s a tough one to get dead level perfect every time.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52505 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

I love when non musicians comment ignorance on something musically related. The most common ignorant thought is that anybody can just pick up the bass and/or drums. bullshite. Yeah, if you want to sound like a bubblegum high school garage band that might be true.


Just depends on what someone's goals are.
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