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re: Poll: Wonderwall v. Any Beatles Song

Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:42 pm to
to get a better idea of the music being played... check this out

something, bassline

bassline tracks
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 10:46 pm
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:58 pm to
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The Beatles' music speaks for itself. If you don't "get it" then that's your problem


You are a failure at posting and in life.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:01 pm to
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The Beatles' music speaks for itself. If you don't "get it" then that's your problem


I mean...I've been accused of trolling about a thousand times in this thread, but this guy IS DEFINITELY trolling with this.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:13 pm to
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4. And if that doesn't make them more culturally releant than The Beatles, then the only reason it doesn't is because somebody told you long ago that The Beatles were the most influential band of all time, and by god you're sticking to that story.

Actually, I'm almost 60 years old and LIVED it. They were far bigger as a cultural influence (and as performers, by the way) than any band before or after... it's not even close. Subsequent bands such as the Stones and Led Zeppelin would not have even been given air time except that the Beatles blazed the trail and set the world on fire... and NOT just the musical world. The culture clash of the 60's... the Vietnam protests, the Kent State's, the sexual revolution.... just about EVERYTHING different about the 60's and carried over since was influenced by the impetus that was the Beatles.

From my vantage point, which is vastly superior to yours, you're just plainly ignorant.


Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:20 pm to
Nice try , Trolljah
Posted by OldTigahFot
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:21 pm to
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Actually, I'm almost 60 years old and LIVED it.


Another one of those rare occasions where you and I are on the same page. I agree that the Beatles were more culturally relevant than any other artist with the possible exception of Elvis Presley. They totally defined pop culture not only through their music but in the way they lived their lives.

Posted by cigsmcgee
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 11:25 pm to
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I submit to you that no band has been imitated as brazenly as LZ.


1966/7 disagrees with you.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 1:52 am to
quote:

1) Oasis - Wonderwall
2) Any song by The Beatles

Which do you choose?


While My Guitar Gently Weeps

/thread
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 2:13 am to
As far as cultural significance goes I think you can mention Elvis, Sinatra, and the Beatles. Maybe one or two others that I can't remember right now but

LZ may have made better music, but cultural significance is the talking point and though zeppelin was huge, you can't say they were bigger than the Beatles.

Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:02 am to
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As far as cultural significance goes I think you can mention Elvis, Sinatra, and the Beatles. Maybe one or two others that I can't remember right now but

LZ may have made better music, but cultural significance is the talking point and though zeppelin was huge, you can't say they were bigger than the Beatles.



When is "cultural significance" measured?

Mozart wasn't the most popular composer in his day, but there's no dispute he has had the most cultural significance among any of his contemporaries.
Posted by Buck Magnum
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:22 am to
Can I pick Champange Supernova?
Posted by inadaze
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:35 am to
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bobbyray21


I've been going back and forth on whether this is a troll or not. When you brought up "I Want It That Way," I was for sure it was a troll, but your responses seem authentic, so I'll give you my take fwiw.

I think what is causing most of the contentiousness is that the basis of the argument is getting muddled. The thread keeps oscillating between subjectivity and objectivity.

The OP is asking a question about personal preference, but then the thread starts to drift into more objective criteria like cultural significance and whether or not people still listen to the Beatles.

To support the objective part of your argument I'll share some of my own anecdotal experience - When I was growing up I spent a few of my teen years living in the Ozarks. Classic Rock was pretty popular amongst most of the people I knew there, a lot of Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, etc. But I don't remember many people listening to The Beatles.

However, I have come across people in different parts of the country who still enjoy The Beatles, as do I. I actually listened to quite a bit of their music yesterday afternoon, often hitting the repeat button, as I bursted out laughing reading through this thread.

So, I guess in a roundabout way, you framed a pretty enjoyable afternoon for me.

Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:48 am to
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The Beatles are not relevant because you don't hear them at parties or on the radio when you and your bros go on a ski trip


Posted by CXSteve
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 9:48 am to
Mostly a dumb thread because OASIS and The Beatles are the top 2 bands in British Rock History
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:03 am to
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Mostly a dumb thread because OASIS and The Beatles are the top 2 bands in British Rock History


:notsureifserious:
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:06 am to
quote:

top 2 bands in British Rock History



quote:

OASIS






The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd might be a little better than Oasis.....
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:08 am to
quote:

I think what is causing most of the contentiousness is that the basis of the argument is getting muddled. The thread keeps oscillating between subjectivity and objectivity.

The OP is asking a question about personal preference, but then the thread starts to drift into more objective criteria like cultural significance and whether or not people still listen to the Beatles.
Yup.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11853 posts
Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:08 am to
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The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd


3-way tie for first


ETA: Stones, Beatles, and Jethro Tull are next, followed by Cream, Genesis, Yes & ELP
This post was edited on 4/19/13 at 10:13 am
Posted by MC123
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:15 am to
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bobbyray21


This thread is terrible.....and you should feel terrible.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 4/19/13 at 10:27 am to
No updates since yesterday afternoon. You still in meltdown mode?
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