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Opinions on Frank Sinatra?

Posted on 2/15/22 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39555 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 9:48 pm
Yeah, random topic.

Seemed like his voice was solid as well as characteristic.

I Want to like the whole persona but no doubt he was an incredibly arrogant a-hole.

As much as we bitch about present day social issues and social media it definitely seems like celebs are more restrained and (relatively) humble than back then. Only relatively though.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30949 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 9:58 pm to
Sinatra was awesome.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:08 pm to
Shitty human being, great singer.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
158988 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:11 pm to
"Frank Sinatra saved my life. Some thugs were savagely beating me when Frank walked up and said, 'That's enough'." -- Shecky Greene
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12854 posts
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:40 pm to
One of the greatest entertainers of the 20th century
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:34 am to
Any friend of Don Rickles is a friend of mine.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77214 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:29 am to
Frank Sinatra was a legend growing up as a kid in the Seventies. He had a duality about him. Generous guy but with a volcanic temper.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
10647 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:42 am to
One of the greats. I saw a TV show showing a production crew taping music stands, etc. to eliminate noise because he did most of his recordings in 1 take.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
14207 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:43 am to
He spawned a hot daughter.

Posted by LSUDVM1999
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2010
2504 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:16 am to
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here's a few facts you may not have known about the one and only Mr. Frank Sinatra.

A forced delivery at birth left permanent scars on his neck and cheek and ruptured an eardrum. This eardrum injury is what kept Frank from enlisting and serving in World War II.

When Frank was born, his parents had wanted a girl. They had already picked out the feminine name "Frances," so when Frank was born, they changed the chosen name to "Francis" for a boy.

According to Mia Farrrow (who Frank had been married to briefly), Frank offered to have Woody Allen's legs broken for her after he found out Woody was having an affair with her adopted daughter Soon-Yi Previn.

Frank loved the color orange. It was his favorite color.

He permanently injured one of his fingers in a fight scene in The Manchurian Candidate (1962). He threw a karate chop and his hand went through a solid wooden table, breaking several bones in his little finger. The footage was left in the film.

In 1950, Frank attempted suicide by sticking his head in the kitchen stove and turning on the gas. The failed attempt occurred after a fight with Ava Gardner, who he was madly in love with. The two married the next year.

Frank was flat broke in 1951, so wife Ava Gardner had to pay for his plane ticket to Africa so he could accompany her while she was filming Mogambo (1953).

Although the song "My Way" is often thought of as his signature or theme song, at first he didn't want to record it. He thought the song was "self-serving and indulgent."

Frank suffered from severe insomnia. He enjoyed talking to people on the CB radio in the middle of the night. Late in his life came the computer era, and yes, Frank, like so many of us, enjoying using the internet and writing email messages in the middle of the night.

He loved playing with his beloved electric train set. He had a track set up that traced his entire career, starting at a replica of the Hoboken, New Jersey, train station.Many know that Frank won an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for his performance in From Here To Eternity in 1954. But Frank had already won a special Oscar for a short film about intolerance called The House I Live In in 1946.

When actor Bela Lugosi died virtually penniless in 1956, Frank quietly paid for his funeral.

It was during the filming of a kidnapping scene for the movie Robin and the Seven Hoods (1964) that Frank found out that his son, Frank Sinatra Jr. had been kidnapped.

It was during the filming of a funeral scene for Robin and the Seven Hoods that he found out that his close friend, President John F. Kennedy, had been assassinated. For obvious reasons, the scene was never used in the movie.

Frank was the first choice to play Harry Callahan in the 1971 film Dirty Harry, but he had to bow out when he broke his finger.

Frank was offered the lead in the movie Death Wish (1974) but he turned it down and the role went to Charles Bronson instead.

Sinatra's epitaph: "The Best is Yet to Come."

Posted by Palomitz
Miami
Member since Oct 2009
2699 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:26 am to
Talented and great voice. Didn't know he wore a toupee until somebody on this board mentioned it recently. Likeable guy, had charisma (even though he was not my generation and did not see much of his personal side).

I also remember the letter that he wrote to George Michael back in 1990 calling him out for his complaining to fame.

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Posted by Telecaster
Memphis
Member since May 2017
2305 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:50 am to
The Chairman of the Board.

I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet
A pawn and a king
I've been up and down and over and out
And I know one thing
Each time I find myself layin'
Flat on my face
I just pick myself up and get
Back in the race

Every complete record collection needs some Sinatra.
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 10:59 am to
Here's a pretty good little YouTube playlist from that era that features a lot of Sinatra. It is called El Cortez, I'm guessing because that casino in Las Vegas plays nothing but this type of music. Really cool. It has artists like Dean Martin, Nate King Cole, Bobby Darin, Tommy Edwards, Earl Grant ..., but mostly Frank.

Opens with a real classic:

Girl From Ipanema
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:04 am to
Pussy slaying crooner
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
23228 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:04 am to

Sinatra was great but even he acknowledge Bing was the King and owed most of his phrasing to him.

"Your Socks Don't Match" - Bing and Louis Jordan
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14701 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

In 1950, Frank attempted suicide by sticking his head in the kitchen stove and turning on the gas. The failed attempt occurred after a fight with Ava Gardner, who he was madly in love with. The two married the next year.

Ava really screwed with his head. I watched the documentary on Frank on Netflix last year, and it was talking about after they divorced, and she was dating the matador (who I think she was introduced to by Hemingway), she meets up with Frank at a hotel somewhere in Europe. They go up to the room for a romp in the sheets, and then come down for dinner with some friends. In he middle of dinner she gets up from the table to go to the restroom and then just ghosts...leaves her purse and other belongs there at the table and just leaves town.

Another fun fact about Frank...when he was recording his A Jolly Christmas album in 1957, he was going to put the song Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas on it (which he had recorded before). He reached out to composer Hugh Martin and asked him to change the original lyric, which was "Until then we'll have to muddle through somehow," because the song needed jollying up. Martin revised the song and changed the lyric to "Hang a shining star upon the highest bough."

Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
13459 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 3:02 pm to
Brilliant, larger than life, influential and, of course, flawed (like everyone). Songs For Swingin' Lovers is absolutely brilliant (It Happened In Monterey is one of my all time favorite songs). The guy was on the very top of the fields of music and acting at one time and was even bigger as a celebrity/icon.


And he provided the subject for a great impersonation:

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40159 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 4:24 pm to
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The guy was on the very top of the fields of music
True, although hard to care about non-songwriters too much.

quote:

and acting
His acting is bad (to be fair, the style of acting back then was largely terrible. e.g. John Wayne is the worst.)

Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39555 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

"Frank Sinatra saved my life. Some thugs were savagely beating me when Frank walked up and said, 'That's enough'." -- Shecky Greene

That was a joke.
Posted by Legba007
Franklin, Tn
Member since Jul 2013
2678 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:16 pm to
has to be in the top 10 of greatest voices
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