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No more rock bogeymen
Posted on 12/15/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 12:44 pm
Do you guys feel like the Internet age has put an end to the legends of rock bogeymen? The 70’s and 80’s had Ozzy, KISS, and Alice Cooper, the 90’s had Marilyn Manson. There was Internet in the 90’s, but there was still such a cultural mythos surrounding Manson and the fear he instilled in so many parents and conservatives.
There’s a lot of bands and artists that sparked outrage before the Internet days, but now it seems like there is no mystery anymore to any of the bands because all the information you need is there in an instant.
Do you feel like any current artists have any similar mythos like the artists of the past?
There’s a lot of bands and artists that sparked outrage before the Internet days, but now it seems like there is no mystery anymore to any of the bands because all the information you need is there in an instant.
Do you feel like any current artists have any similar mythos like the artists of the past?
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Posted on 12/15/22 at 12:53 pm to SaintlyTiger88
There was more mystery surrounding them pre-internet. Now you get artists posting their every move for attention.
That’s why I like artists like Sturgill Simpson… he’ll go radio silent, create a work of art, create new social media content to promote it, get good reactions, scrub said content and go radio silent again.
That’s why I like artists like Sturgill Simpson… he’ll go radio silent, create a work of art, create new social media content to promote it, get good reactions, scrub said content and go radio silent again.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 12/15/22 at 12:56 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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There’s a lot of bands and artists that sparked outrage before the Internet days, but now it seems like there is no mystery anymore to any of the bands because all the information you need is there in an instant.
The 70s,80s,90s the majority of society practiced public morals. Even if they didn't believe them in private, in public for the most part people were polite and respectful. The public rejected pornographic and indecent content as taboo or at least inappropriate for mainstream audiences.
People also generally identified with Christianity so devil worship and atheism was rejected on a large societal scale.
In 2022, society has fully accepted pornography, atheism, and obscene content as a normal part of every day life for all ages. SO why would there be boogeymen?
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:40 am to Richard Grayson
The new boogey man would be one calling out all of the things you referenced as being OK as well as being a free speech, anti-vax purist, etc.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:02 am to SaintlyTiger88
No one is “scared” of rock n roll anymore because everything is corrupted and rock n roll isn’t relevant in pop culture.
When people go, “but it’s Satanic!” Everyone just shrugs and goes “yeah…and?”
The last wave of bands the public was “concerned” about were probably those mid-pate 2000’s emo bands that were seen as romanticizing and glorifying depression and suicide. They were afraid it would lead to kids using suicide as a cry for attention en-masse. Erryone claims depression these days, so that’s not exactly a “threat” anymore.
The reality is that the edge lords of rock n roll won the culture war and pushed the envelope so far that nothing is shocking or controversial anymore. The youth aren’t at risk of being corrupted, they’re at risk of NOT being corrupt.
When people go, “but it’s Satanic!” Everyone just shrugs and goes “yeah…and?”
The last wave of bands the public was “concerned” about were probably those mid-pate 2000’s emo bands that were seen as romanticizing and glorifying depression and suicide. They were afraid it would lead to kids using suicide as a cry for attention en-masse. Erryone claims depression these days, so that’s not exactly a “threat” anymore.
The reality is that the edge lords of rock n roll won the culture war and pushed the envelope so far that nothing is shocking or controversial anymore. The youth aren’t at risk of being corrupted, they’re at risk of NOT being corrupt.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:04 am to SaintlyTiger88
Music is no longer relevant in terms of youthful rebellion. When I was a kid if I wanted to make my parents angry, I'd listen to punk rock and dye my hair some strange color. But my kids aren't going to be able to find music so extreme that I won't at least give it a chance.
Progressive politics and LGBTQXYZ gender-bending behavior are how disaffected youth make their parents angry these days.
Progressive politics and LGBTQXYZ gender-bending behavior are how disaffected youth make their parents angry these days.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:11 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Ma man!
This is the most pithy and insightful opinion posted to RD in months. Good job!
This is the most pithy and insightful opinion posted to RD in months. Good job!
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:03 pm to kingbob
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The last wave of bands the public was “concerned” about were probably those mid-pate 2000’s emo bands that were seen as romanticizing and glorifying depression and suicide
No one knew who those bands were...
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:05 pm to TFTC
The last wave of that was Tipper Gore and the PMRC...
Posted on 12/17/22 at 5:07 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Moral panics has left rock and roll and now is focused on libraries and LGBTQ
Posted on 12/18/22 at 10:43 am to SaintlyTiger88
I was always amazed at how gullible adults (and kids) were for believing all the bullshite satanic/occult stuff that was used to bring attention to certain performers. But I was perhaps more impressed that the often young performers were savvy enough to pull it off and keep up the act.
Posted on 12/18/22 at 1:16 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Eric Clapton
Posted on 12/18/22 at 1:41 pm to TFTC
No one knew who those bands were...
My Chem, The Used, etc weren’t exactly underground. Those bands saw heavy rotation on mtv and were featured on TRL.
My Chem, The Used, etc weren’t exactly underground. Those bands saw heavy rotation on mtv and were featured on TRL.
Posted on 12/18/22 at 4:23 pm to kingbob
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Those bands saw heavy rotation on mtv and were featured on TRL.
parents weren't watching that crap... only teenagers!
Posted on 12/18/22 at 11:20 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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’s had Ozzy, KISS, and Alice Cooper, the 90’s had Marilyn Manson
What those decades had was a lot more "scary" than the names listed.
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