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re: music snobs: critically acclaimed albums vs listenability

Posted on 6/29/12 at 4:40 am to
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 6/29/12 at 4:40 am to
quote:

I really like Arcade Fire's The Suburbs.


That's just a great album. I could listen to the song Rebellion (lies) on repeat-1 all day every day for a week. At least.
Posted by beezylsu
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/29/12 at 8:36 am to
Rebellion (Lies) is actually off of Funeral. The Suburbs is a really good album and better IMO than Neon Bible. Arcade Fire's "Funeral" album is the best album of the last 10 years.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 6/29/12 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Arcade Fire's "Funeral" album is the best album of the last 10 years.


Word. Preach on.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 6/29/12 at 8:41 am to
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Rebellion (Lies) is actually off of Funeral. The Suburbs is a really good album and better IMO than Neon Bible. Arcade Fire's "Funeral" album is the best album of the last 10 years.


I knew this and I got 'em confused anyway.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/29/12 at 8:54 am to
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Arcade Fire's "Funeral" album is the best album of the last 10 years.


Pump the brakes buddy
Posted by beezylsu
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/29/12 at 9:07 am to
No. I'm good. Funeral is the best album of the last 10 years.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/29/12 at 11:40 am to
I’m actually pretty anti-Pitchfork as well. I largely disagree with them. I think its good to find a critic whose tastes you agree with and go with their recommendations. You won’t get a 100% hit rate, but you’ll find stuff in your palette. I love Steven Hyden, formerly of the AV Club, and if he gushes over something, I’ll at least check it out. I know I like what he likes, generally. I also find that my tastes generally line up with Paste Magazine. Their top albums list last year was getting ridiculed on twitter, and then I saw it had all of the CD’s I liked and overlooked the crap I thought was grossly overrated.

I don’t mean they are the “best” critics, just ones they line up with my tastes.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
20044 posts
Posted on 6/30/12 at 12:45 am to
Blood on the Tracks - Bob Dylan

greatness
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 6/30/12 at 7:15 am to
quote:

I’m actually pretty anti-Pitchfork as well. I largely disagree with them. I think its good to find a critic whose tastes you agree with and go with their recommendations. You won’t get a 100% hit rate, but you’ll find stuff in your palette. I love Steven Hyden, formerly of the AV Club, and if he gushes over something, I’ll at least check it out. I know I like what he likes, generally. I also find that my tastes generally line up with Paste Magazine. Their top albums list last year was getting ridiculed on twitter, and then I saw it had all of the CD’s I liked and overlooked the crap I thought was grossly overrated.

I don’t mean they are the “best” critics, just ones they line up with my tastes.


I've tried to do this before, but I haven't had success. My problem with music critics is that they aren't listening to music the way that music should be listened to.

Our bodies physically respond to music. A song can make you angry. A song can make you wanna move. A song can make your hair stand on end.

100,000+ years of evolution via natural selection have given us brains dedicated hardware for music. We listen to a song and we don't have to think about whether we like it. Our brains are working -- unnoticed in the background, and in real-time -- and doing all the leg-work for us. And so when we hear a song, we're either feeling it, or we're not feeling.

And that is the end of music analysis. If you like song, there is no need to think about why you like it. Or whether you should like it. or what it is about it that like.

100,00+ years of natural selection and the resulting ability of our brains to physically respond to music in-real time is essentially nature's way of ensuring that those types of questions need not be asked.

And yet when music critis write up reviews, their reviews are based on these very types of completely irrelevant inquiries.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 6/30/12 at 7:16 am to
quote:

I’m actually pretty anti-Pitchfork as well. I largely disagree with them. I think its good to find a critic whose tastes you agree with and go with their recommendations. You won’t get a 100% hit rate, but you’ll find stuff in your palette. I love Steven Hyden, formerly of the AV Club, and if he gushes over something, I’ll at least check it out. I know I like what he likes, generally. I also find that my tastes generally line up with Paste Magazine. Their top albums list last year was getting ridiculed on twitter, and then I saw it had all of the CD’s I liked and overlooked the crap I thought was grossly overrated.

I don’t mean they are the “best” critics, just ones they line up with my tastes.


I've tried to do this before, but I haven't had success. My problem with music critics is that they aren't listening to music the way that music should be listened to.

Our bodies physically respond to music. A song can make you angry. A song can make you wanna move. A song can make your hair stand on end.

100,000+ years of evolution via natural selection have given us brains dedicated hardware for music. We listen to a song and we don't have to think about whether we like it. Our brains are working -- unnoticed in the background, and in real-time -- and doing all the leg-work for us. And so when we hear a song, we're either feeling it, or we're not feeling.

And that is the end of music analysis. If you like song, there is no need to think about why you like it. Or whether you should like it. or what it is about it that like.

100,00+ years of natural selection and the resulting ability of our brains to physically respond to music in-real time is essentially nature's way of ensuring that those types of questions need not be asked.

And yet when music critis write up reviews, their reviews are based on these very types of completely irrelevant inquiries.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 6/30/12 at 7:16 am to
quote:

I’m actually pretty anti-Pitchfork as well. I largely disagree with them. I think its good to find a critic whose tastes you agree with and go with their recommendations. You won’t get a 100% hit rate, but you’ll find stuff in your palette. I love Steven Hyden, formerly of the AV Club, and if he gushes over something, I’ll at least check it out. I know I like what he likes, generally. I also find that my tastes generally line up with Paste Magazine. Their top albums list last year was getting ridiculed on twitter, and then I saw it had all of the CD’s I liked and overlooked the crap I thought was grossly overrated.

I don’t mean they are the “best” critics, just ones they line up with my tastes.


I've tried to do this before, but I haven't had success. My problem with music critics is that they aren't listening to music the way that music should be listened to.

Our bodies physically respond to music. A song can make you angry. A song can make you wanna move. A song can make your hair stand on end.

100,000+ years of evolution via natural selection have given us brains dedicated hardware for music. We listen to a song and we don't have to think about whether we like it. Our brains are working -- unnoticed in the background, and in real-time -- and doing all the leg-work for us. And so when we hear a song, we're either feeling it, or we're not feeling.

And that is the end of music analysis. If you like song, there is no need to think about why you like it. Or whether you should like it. or what it is about it that like.

100,00+ years of natural selection and the resulting ability of our brains to physically respond to music in-real time is essentially nature's way of ensuring that those types of questions need not be asked.

And yet when music critis write up reviews, their reviews are based on these very types of completely irrelevant inquiries.
Posted by beezylsu
Member since Jan 2011
2922 posts
Posted on 6/30/12 at 7:57 am to
Bobbyray meant that shite! He told us three times!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87416 posts
Posted on 6/30/12 at 8:10 am to
quote:

can anyone give some examples (obviously dark side of the moon) of albums that are 'best evahhh!'


quote:

jam out
I removed this.


Velvet Underground and Nico
Surrealistic Pillow
Blood on the Tracks
Rumors
Blue Album
Reckoning/Life's Rich Pageant
Tapestry
Fun & Games
Enema of the State
John Prine
The Cars
More Fun in the New World
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 6/30/12 at 8:17 am to
Alkaline trio - from here to infirmary

Really really good rock album all the way through
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23562 posts
Posted on 6/30/12 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Arcade Fire's "Funeral" album is the best album of the last 10 years.


Easily, I agree with you... That album was a breath of fresh air. ALthough I like their other records, they cant compare to me...
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 6/30/12 at 10:20 am to
Oh no, I disagreed that it was the best since 2002.

Posted by BrockLanders
By Appointment Only
Member since Sep 2008
6517 posts
Posted on 6/30/12 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Sleater Kinney - Dig Me Out


Now that's a band very few people ever mention around here. They made several great records - One Beat being my favorite.

Really sucked when they broke up.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 2:51 am to
quote:

obbyray meant that shite! He told us three times!


I'd been triple posting all day. Oops.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93416 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

radiohead - ok computer wilco - yankee hotel foxtrot
I find both of these extremely "listenable


quote:

I think a better example of what this thread is about would be My Bloody Valentine's Loveless.


wow..i cant get into the radiohead or wilco but i LOVE that MBV record.

people have all kinds of tastes..is this like the % of the population that thinks cilantro tastes like soap vs those that love it? radiohead seems very polarizing..and to be honest..i put 'ok computer' in about once a year and try to get it..but its not working for me. i wish it would...kinda want to see what all the fuss is about but somehow its not turning me on.

i'm being serious..no offense to what you like AT ALL. clearly alot of people love radiohead and outside of taking piano lessons as a kid, i'm certainly no 'music connosior' to appreciate all the subtle stuff.

hell, i'll admit it..i listen to Groove Armada's Black Light more than any other album in the last 3 years..except Snake River Conspiracy.

other than liking the good old power-rock going on with black light, i can't explain why i enjoy it other than it makes me feel freaking good to crank that shite up in my 4runner when i'm heading out or going to race.
This post was edited on 7/2/12 at 1:56 pm
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

people have all kinds of tastes..is this like the % of the population that thinks cilantro tastes like soap vs those that love it? radiohead seems very polarizing..and to be honest..i put 'ok computer' in about once a year and try to get it..but its not working for me. i wish it would...kinda want to see what all the fuss is about but somehow its not turning me on.


I'm the same way. Well...I don't put it in every year, but I've put ok computer and Kid A in several times apiece. I also wish that I got it. It's like there is this secret society that I'm not a part of.
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