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Metal lovers is this a blasphemous statement?

Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:44 pm
Posted by MaxxPain2
Member since Oct 2021
1412 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:44 pm
Down > Pantera

Phil is so godam good with Down
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
9751 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:50 pm to
I have insane love for both. The two bands are nothing alike. You can't even compare them to each other.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42239 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:56 pm to
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The two bands are nothing alike. You can't even compare them to each other.

I would go with this. If we're limiting it to Anselmo era Pantera, their worst stuff is better than Down's worst stuff. Those first two Down albums are classics but Over the Under is just ok and the eps aren't very good. Compare that to Pantera's worst, Reinventing the Steel is way better than any of the later Down stuff.
Posted by NachoReb
ITP ATL
Member since Feb 2012
2484 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:20 pm to
Pantera has the way better catalog but Nola is the best album between the two bands imo
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
4434 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:49 am to
Die hard fan of both. Been to nine Pantera shows and three Down shows. Saw Pantera's last show. Down at the Varsity two years ago was unreal. My wife was in Downs Facebook post the next day. I dyed my goatee red when Dime got killed. Pantera's music will hold up till the end of time as a top tier groove metal band!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39833 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:10 pm to
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Metal lovers is this a blasphemous statement?
MaxxPain2
Down > Pantera

yes
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
20031 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:39 pm to
The Nola album from Down is an elite metal album just like Pantera's best.

I'll take Pantera over Down but it's not crazy for someone to say the opposite. Both are/were badass.
Posted by MaxxPain2
Member since Oct 2021
1412 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:06 pm to
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Down at the Varsity two years ago was unreal


I was also at that show but would counter the show at the Fillmore around 3 years ago was even better
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
4434 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:17 pm to
Downs sound is normally muddy. The Varsity show sound people earned their money that night! Highs, mids and lows of course were perfect.
Posted by Portballs
Member since Jun 2025
486 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:55 pm to
Like it or not, Phil-era Pantera was contrived.
DOWN is more true to Phil's style....
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7566 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Phil is so godam good with Down

I remember getting the NOLA CD when it came out, not knowing anything about it other than it was Phil's side project

Getting to experience an album like that completely cold was a magical experience you don't get to do anymore.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42239 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:17 pm to
This was my experience as well. I had head COC and Crowbar at the time so the idea of members of those bands teaming with Phil for a new band was exciting. I first heard about it on MTV a few days before NOLA was released. I bought the cd on release day and have been a fan ever since. Have seen them 17 times now going back to 2002.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39833 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:32 pm to
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The Nola album from Down is an elite metal album just like Pantera's best.
Serious question: what's the 2nd and 3rd best songs after Stone the Crow?
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
9751 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:44 am to
An almost impossible question but I would go
2. Eyes of the South
3. Bury me in Smoke
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
20031 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:14 am to
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Serious question: what's the 2nd and 3rd best songs after Stone the Crow?
Eyes of the South is one of my absolute favorite metal songs. Bury Me in Smoke would be my other choice.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
20031 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:15 am to
Speaking of Eyes of the South, enjoy:






The energy of that show
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 10:16 am
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
9751 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:23 am to
I wish I could have been at that show back then. The Bomb Factory in Dallas is an amazing venue & the best place to see a show in Dallas. That entire show is in YouTube. Amazing. Nice appearance from Vinnie during that song.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12450 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:29 am to
Love them both. Music is not a competition of who is better. Different bands with different moods.
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