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re: Merle Haggard
Posted on 3/28/23 at 2:16 pm to TigerinKorea
Posted on 3/28/23 at 2:16 pm to TigerinKorea
Probably but I still think he wouldn't hit it big. Not that he didn't have the talent but his music and lyrics wouldn't fit on mainstream outlets.
Listeners care more about a beer, a truck and a girl.
Listeners care more about a beer, a truck and a girl.
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:39 pm to dchog
I was visiting a friend in Nashville who works in the business. She had an original printed black and white candid photo (5x7?) of The Hag on her end table. I recognized him immediately. She said she picked it up in an antique store somewhere (not Nashville) for $1. It was labeled “Old Man in Field, Smiling B&W”.
Not sure why, but I loved that picture. The smirk was quintessential Hag.
Not sure why, but I loved that picture. The smirk was quintessential Hag.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:46 am to dchog
Even back in the day, I'm not sure he was exactly dominating the radio charts in comparison to more pop-oriented country like Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton.
I saw him twice in the late 90's at dancehalls that held around 2,000 people. He basically lived in his tour bus and toured as much as he could. I think he'd be doing at least as well today, with so many more platforms, labels, venues, and festivals geared towards Americana/outlaw country/roots or whatever.
It's hard to look back and judge the success of legends once they're firmly implanted in our memories, when it's easy to forget or ignore the struggles they had with major labels and getting regular antenna radio airplay.
I saw him twice in the late 90's at dancehalls that held around 2,000 people. He basically lived in his tour bus and toured as much as he could. I think he'd be doing at least as well today, with so many more platforms, labels, venues, and festivals geared towards Americana/outlaw country/roots or whatever.
It's hard to look back and judge the success of legends once they're firmly implanted in our memories, when it's easy to forget or ignore the struggles they had with major labels and getting regular antenna radio airplay.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:40 am to dchog
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Just going strictly as an artist, he probably is the goat of country music.
Kind of where I'm at. He had 38 number one country hits spanning 3 decades, most of which he wrote.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 8:39 am to dchog
My favorite artist of all time.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:07 am to LSUballs
He was a favorite of my grandfather.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:24 am to dchog
Gotta hump and get it
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:40 am to dchog
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Just going strictly as an artist, he probably is the goat of country music.
he is up there, but George Jones is the greatest of all time.
got to see Merle and Willie in the summer of 2015 in New Braunfels...so glad i did.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:02 pm to Sam Quint
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but George Jones is the greatest of all time.
A ludicrous statement. And I love The Possum.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:16 pm to Telecaster
I agree with you.
Far and away the best, and I don't think it's very close.
Far and away the best, and I don't think it's very close.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:19 pm to LSUballs
it's a ludicrous statement to say that the country singer that most country singers (including Merle Haggard) consider to be the greatest of all time is the greatest of all time?
ok.
ok.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:30 pm to Sam Quint
What are you saying that George is the greatest of all time at?
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 3/29/23 at 1:33 pm to LSUballs
the greatest country singer
Posted on 3/29/23 at 2:03 pm to Sam Quint
As in vocalist? He can sing the shite out of a song. Don't know if I would call him the greatest of all time, but he's up there. Tastes are subjective.
He is not the greatest country artist of all time.
He is not the greatest country artist of all time.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 2:41 pm to Sam Quint
Posted on 3/29/23 at 2:49 pm to LSUballs
Hank Sr
Posted on 3/29/23 at 3:01 pm to LSUballs
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As in vocalist? He can sing the shite out of a song. Don't know if I would call him the greatest of all time, but he's up there. Tastes are subjective. He is not the greatest country artist of all time.
i like that you followed up "tastes are subjective" with a completely non-subjective statement that he is NOT the greatest country artist of all time.
George Jones is considered by many people, including many of his contemporaries, as the greatest country singer of all time. that doesnt mean that you have to agree. like you said, it's subjective. but it's certainly not a "ludicrous" opinion.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 3:38 pm to Sam Quint
Hank Williams is the greatest country artist of all time. I was trying to figure out if you were saying George was the greatest country "singer" of all time. If so you could be granted some leeway, as tastes are subjective. But you're actually saying George Jones was a better artist than Hank Williams. So you're an idiot.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:16 pm to LSUballs
an idiot!? haha, jesus dude. you are strangely passionate about this. i'm just telling you my opinion, and my opinion is one that is widely shared.
is there an industry-wide agreed upon definition of "country artist" vs "country singer" that you are hanging your hat on here? i'll grant you that maybe there is some sort of criteria that one has to have to meet the "artist" standard vs the "singer" standard.
is there an industry-wide agreed upon definition of "country artist" vs "country singer" that you are hanging your hat on here? i'll grant you that maybe there is some sort of criteria that one has to have to meet the "artist" standard vs the "singer" standard.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:24 pm to LSUballs
As a full package country music legend, Merle is hard to argue against. Jones, Hank Williams and others had colorful lives to say the least and of course infinitely talented on their own.
But Merle wrote so much of his own stuff and had so much material.
This of course was after a childhood in and out of juvi centers. He made a smart call not escaping with his buddy at SQ.
But Merle wrote so much of his own stuff and had so much material.
This of course was after a childhood in and out of juvi centers. He made a smart call not escaping with his buddy at SQ.
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Married and plagued by financial issues, in 1957 he tried to rob a Bakersfield roadhouse, was caught and arrested. Convicted, he was sent to the Bakersfield Jail. After an escape attempt he was transferred to San Quentin Prison on February 21, 1958. There he was prisoner number A45200.
While in prison, Haggard learned that his wife was expecting another man's child, which stressed him psychologically. He was fired from a series of prison jobs, and planned to escape along with another inmate nicknamed "Rabbit" (James Kendrick) but was dissuaded by fellow inmates.
While at San Quentin, Haggard started a gambling and brewing racket with his cellmate. After he was caught drunk, he was sent for a week to solitary confinement where he encountered Caryl Chessman, an author and death-row inmate. Meanwhile, "Rabbit" had successfully escaped, only to shoot a police officer and be returned to San Quentin for execution. Chessman's predicament, along with the execution of "Rabbit," inspired Haggard to change his life.
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