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re: MB posters can be hypocritical at times
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:33 am to CottonWasKing
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:33 am to CottonWasKing
where bands could be considered a sellout by original fans. I would think it all falls on the label trying to maximize their investment
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:39 am to LSUvegasbombed
A lot of people throw the term sell out around in regards to the black keys but I feel like the blame lies more in their interest in the production side of music than some money making master plan.
Honestly I can't think of another band who turned their back on their fans to the degree that KoL did.
Black eyed peas was mentioned in the other thread and that's a damn fine example.
Honestly I can't think of another band who turned their back on their fans to the degree that KoL did.
Black eyed peas was mentioned in the other thread and that's a damn fine example.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:45 am to CottonWasKing
Yeah, the Black Eyed Peas are a great example. the Goo Goo Dolls were a (bad) punk band who started making Dad rock. People have lobbed the sell out charge at Metallica, but I view their evolution from a thrash band to a more traditional hard arena rock band as the simple process of aging.
But look at a guy like Neil Young. His music is all over the palce, but he's beloved. Because he changes on his terms and he's not just chasing trends or demographics.
But look at a guy like Neil Young. His music is all over the palce, but he's beloved. Because he changes on his terms and he's not just chasing trends or demographics.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:47 am to LSUvegasbombed
How do you know these are the same people?
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:49 am to Baloo
quote:Exactly. Exploring new styles of music doesn't always equal "selling out".
But look at a guy like Neil Young. His music is all over the palce, but he's beloved. Because he changes on his terms and he's not just chasing trends or demographics.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:52 am to CottonWasKing
I don't think the black keys "sold out" at all fwiw.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:53 am to Baloo
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But look at a guy like Neil Young. His music is all over the palce, but he's beloved. Because he changes on his terms and he's not just chasing trends or demographics.
It also helps that all of his music is actually good.
Then on the other hand you have bands that sold out but did so after they were already legends so no one has the balls to call them out on it. Like the Rolling Stones who made a goddamn disco album for fricks sake.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:55 am to CottonWasKing
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Like the Rolling Stones who made a goddamn disco album for fricks sake.
Some Girls is a great album. Sorry you don't know how to get down wit da get down.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:55 am to TheDoc
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I don't think the black keys "sold out" at all fwiw.
I don't either. After all they were producers long before they were a blues band it's only natural that they would eventually gravitate back to that passion. I don't like it but I can understand and respect why they're doing it.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:56 am to HeadyBrosevelt
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Some Girls is a great album. Sorry you don't know how to get down wit da get down.
I don't dislike the album but it was a cash grab plain and simple but hey they're the stones. They can do shite like that
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:02 pm to CottonWasKing
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it was a cash grab plain and simple
You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Mick Jagger loved disco.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:03 pm to CottonWasKing
A lot of bands caved into the disco sound either by trend, label pressure, cash grab.
Shakedown Street by the Dead... Disco.
Shakedown Street by the Dead... Disco.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:06 pm to Cdawg
Yeah and I really like Shakedown Street
Eta: the song, I don't think I've ever listened to the studio album
Eta: the song, I don't think I've ever listened to the studio album
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:07 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
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You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Mick Jagger loved disco.
Mick jagger loved cocaine and fricking anything that walked. Disco gave him an excuse to keep doing that. So yea of course he loved disco
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:08 pm to CottonWasKing
Disco>WSP
And it aint even close
And it aint even close
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:09 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
It is my favorite WSP song
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:10 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
Come on. You're not even trying anymore
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:14 pm to Melvin
Liz Phair went from making one of the most iconic records of the 90s, to making unapologetic, Matrix produced, pop records made for top 40 radio...
To her credit, she has admitted to being a single mother and needing to get paid to provide for her child, so she sold out on purpose... More power to her, I wont buy those records but it doesnt take away from the brilliance of Guyville...
I believe Jackson Browne wrote a song about this...
To her credit, she has admitted to being a single mother and needing to get paid to provide for her child, so she sold out on purpose... More power to her, I wont buy those records but it doesnt take away from the brilliance of Guyville...
I believe Jackson Browne wrote a song about this...
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:14 pm to Melvin
That WSP song is an insult to the entire genre and should never be played again
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:15 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
Much better
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