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re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music

Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:40 am to
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:40 am to
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I don’t care if AI is used on the periphery as long as AI is not directly generating the music.


I agree with this. What the Beatles did with Now and Then should be the extent of it.

This is from Giles Martin.

The Beatles used machine learning and AI audio-separation technology to extract John Lennon's voice from a 1978 home demo tape, allowing them to complete and release their final song, "Now and Then," in November 2023.

How AI Was Used

• Stem Separation ("De-mixing"): Director Peter Jackson's audio team used machine learning software (first developed for the Get Back docuseries) to recognize John Lennon's voice and separate it cleanly from a background piano and electrical hum on his cassette recording.
• Not Synthesized or Generated: Co-producer Giles Martin clarified that AI did not artificially generate or synthesize John Lennon's voice. Instead, it acted like an advanced digital tool to isolate existing real audio from low-fidelity noise.

Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1240 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:32 pm to
Here's the link to another song for the album that my brother wrote all the lyrics to called, " I Know I'll Know You".

I Know I'll Know You
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
22577 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:40 pm to
I have one. It's titled: "I fantasize and make up a lot of sh/t in order to get clicks and responses from strangers on a message board blues"
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1240 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:49 pm to
Here's a link to another song for the album that my brother wrote all of the lyrics to called, "A Song Just For You".

A Song Just For You
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1240 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:53 pm to
Here's the link to another song that will be included in the album which my brother wrote almost all of the lyrics to called, "Gonna Take You Down".

Gonna Take You Down

This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1240 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:03 pm to
Of course the song called, "Dark Lady" which my brother wrote all of the lyrics to will be included in the album.

Here's the link.

Dark Lady
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1240 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:12 pm to
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I have one. It's titled: "I fantasize and make up a lot of sh/t in order to get clicks and responses from strangers on a message board blues"


Every time a songwriter writes a song they hope it's listened to by strangers.
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1240 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:23 pm to
Let's not forget to include in the album the song called, "Love's Serenade" which my brother wrote all of the lyrics to.

Here's the link to the song.

Love's Serenade
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1240 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:51 pm to
Of course we have to include in the album the song called, "Summertime In San Francisco" which my brother wrote all of the lyrics to.

Here's the link to the song.

Summertime In San Francisco
Posted by STigers
Gulf Coast
Member since Nov 2022
4538 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:16 pm to
What in the actual hell is going on here.

No one wants to hear your AI produced songs. (Except Cdawg apparently).
I’m sorry but it’s true.
So you went from posting 500 threads of actual music to this thread of your own AI generated slop.

Most of us here prefer real musicians with real instruments with real Vocalists.
And the day we stop preferring real music is day Great Music Dies.

Congrats I think you have a full fake album now.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
11433 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:20 pm to
You don't understand, man! He wrote the words! That's the really important part of a song anyway. The music is pretty much superfluous and serves no purpose except to exist so that the "songwriter" can call it a song.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
62460 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:27 pm to
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Here's the link to another song for the album that my brother wrote all the lyrics to called, " I Know I'll Know You".

I Know I'll Know You

So you can't get songwriting credit for it?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
62460 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:27 pm to
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(Except Cdawg apparently)

Don't be a hater.
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1240 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:09 pm to
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What in the actual hell is going on here.

No one wants to hear your AI produced songs. (Except Cdawg apparently).
I’m sorry but it’s true.
So you went from posting 500 threads of actual music to this thread of your own AI generated slop.

Most of us here prefer real musicians with real instruments with real Vocalists.
And the day we stop preferring real music is day Great Music Dies.

Congrats I think you have a full fake album now.


LOL!

You are sooooo funny!

I'm glad my and my brother's songs upset you "real" musicians so much that you won't even listen to them.

That's hilarious!!!
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1240 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

You don't understand, man! He wrote the words! That's the really important part of a song anyway. The music is pretty much superfluous and serves no purpose except to exist so that the "songwriter" can call it a song.


BS!!!

The music emphasizes the meaning and the emotion of the lyrics.

The music is just as important as the lyrics of a song.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
11433 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:31 pm to
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The music emphasizes the meaning and the emotion of the lyrics.


So you believe AI is able to express the emotions of your lyrics through music?
Posted by STigers
Gulf Coast
Member since Nov 2022
4538 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 4:01 pm to
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Don't be a hater.
Don’t be a lying Troll

-You were actually the first person to tell me what a troll is. (A long time ago)
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
1240 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 4:24 pm to
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So you believe AI is able to express the emotions of your lyrics through music?


Yes.

Here's the link to a good example of AI expressing my emotions in the song I wrote the lyrics to called, "You Me".

You Me

This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 4:27 pm
Posted by STigers
Gulf Coast
Member since Nov 2022
4538 posts
Posted on 10/13/26 at 4:30 pm to
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YouMe
holy hell that is aweful
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