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Lee Kerslake has passed away

Posted on 9/19/20 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 2:50 pm
He was Ozzy’s drummer on The Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a Madman albums before he was replaced by Tommy Aldridge. Died at age 73 of prostate cancer. RIP

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Posted by Deke
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 4:02 pm to
That sucks.
Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 4:08 pm to
I knew he had been in bad health, hate to hear it.
Posted by johnqpublic
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 4:12 pm to
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Died at age 73 of prostate cancer.


There is a "new" video of Crazy Train (it's animated) that Ozzy just released. Again it disrespects the memory of Lee and Bob (it is clear the animation is supposed to be Rudy and Tommy). I saw it last night and wondered how Lee was doing. Sad to hear he passed.

Godspeed Lee.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 4:25 pm to
I haven’t seen the video, but those two were certainly done wrong by the Ozzy camp. They’ve tried to claim that Bob and Lee were just hired hands and it was always an Ozzy solo project. However, they were all originally billed as the Blizzard of Ozz band. It still irks me that Bob and Lee were removed from later releases and their parts re-recorded. Just insanely disrespectful
Posted by Sayre
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Posted on 9/19/20 at 7:10 pm to
Saw this earlier. Major bummer. He was pretty kick arse.

There are some videos on YouTube of he and Bob Daisley talking about being in Ozzy's band. Bob does most of the talking, but Lee comes across as a cool dude all the way around.
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Posted by johnqpublic
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 12:29 am to
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There are some videos on YouTube of he and Bob Daisley talking about being in Ozzy's band. Bob does most of the talking, but Lee comes across as a cool dude all the way around.


I've seen those videos and agree.
Posted by lammo
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 2:15 am to
I remember him with Uriah Heep.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

I haven’t seen the video, but those two were certainly done wrong by the Ozzy camp. They’ve tried to claim that Bob and Lee were just hired hands and it was always an Ozzy solo project. However, they were all originally billed as the Blizzard of Ozz band. It still irks me that Bob and Lee were removed from later releases and their parts re-recorded. Just insanely disrespectful
I read about all of this drama in the obits - wasn't aware of it over the years. It says at some point they had re-recorded the drums and bass for those 2 albums? Now I need to know which version I had, because I love both of those.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 5:13 pm to
The 2003 remaster has the drum and bass tracks redone...Sharon and Ozzy switched back to the originals for future releases after fan backlash.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 5:59 pm to
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The 2003 remaster has the drum and bass tracks redone
Do you have a link to the tracks? Or is it down the memory hole now?

Why were they so recalcitrant on this? Why frick over Daisley and Kerslake? I don't get it.
Posted by johnqpublic
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:43 pm to
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Why were they so recalcitrant on this? Why frick over Daisley and Kerslake? I don't get it.


Bob and Lee sued in 1986 for unpaid royalties and were awarded songwriting credits on the first two albums. Sharon doesn't seem to like when people disrupt her cash flow, even if it's the right thing. So being the vindictive person she is, she removed them from the 2002 remastered versions (yes...she carries a grudge a loooooong time). This would prevent them from receiving royalties for their performances. My guess is she paid Robert Trujillo and Mike Bordin (the guys who played the replacement tracks) a lump sum and they waived any recording royalties, or at least agreed to a lower cut.

Sharon claimed Ozzy wanted them removed, but Ozzy said in his book Sharon did it without his knowledge. He later said in an interview he demanded the originals put back for the 2011 release.

At first, the 2003 releases did NOT have any indication that the tracks had been altered other than remastering. Later a sticker was added. The 2002 remaster has only ONE additional track: "You Lookin' At Me Lookin' At You".

The 2011 30th Anniversary CD has Bob and Lee's original performances restored and has THREE additional tracks:
"You Looking at Me, Looking at You" (Non-LP B-side)
"Goodbye To Romance" (2010 Guitar & Vocal Mix)
"RR" (Rhoads; outtake from "Blizzard of Ozz" sessions)

AFAIK, if you have only the original 9 tracks, those are the Bob and Lee recordings.




Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:43 pm to
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Why were they so recalcitrant on this? Why frick over Daisley and Kerslake? I don't get it.



Originally they were the Blizzard of Ozz band not an Ozzy solo project. At some point both were fired from the band and replaced with Rudy and Tommy though I believe Bob Daisley continued to write songs for Ozzy throughout the 80’s. Eventually the issue of writing credits came up and they sued Ozzy for back royalties I believe. In retaliation their parts were secretly re-recorded for the purposes of denying them royalties on all future releases and possibly radio spins as well. When fans found out about it, the backlash was so bad that they were eventually put back on the album I believe. FWIW, Jake E Lee was done just as dirty by Ozzy and Sharon. He along with Bob Daisley wrote most of the Bark at the Moon album and got completely screwed on the writing credits.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:55 pm to
Bob Daisley also has all the tapes, demos, and practice sessions of them working up the songs. I and a million other fans would love to hear them, but they will never be released because the Osbourne's have blocked him from releasing them. They simply don’t want to pay the man a dime. It’s beyond petty.
Posted by johnqpublic
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:59 pm to
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FWIW, Jake E Lee was done just as dirty by Ozzy and Sharon. He along with Bob Daisley wrote most of the Bark at the Moon album and got completely screwed on the writing credits.


Here's what Jake said on Eddie Trunk's show about how that went down.

“Here’s the truth. This is really gonna get me in more hot water, but whatever, I’m in hot water and I don’t see a way out …

I was told from the get-go, ‘[If] you write part of the songs, you’ll get writing credit, you’ll get publishing. That’s part of your deal.’

So we recorded the album. I’m recording the album at Ridge Farm … in the middle of Scotland. Ridge Farm is actually a farm; the recording studio is in the barn. So I’m by myself. I don’t have management, I don’t have a lawyer, I don’t have anything.

But they promise me, ‘You’ll get what’s coming.’ And I keep asking because I’m getting really close to finishing all my stuff on the record, and finally, once I lay down the final track of my guitar playing, they said, ‘Ah! We have the contract for you.’ And in it, it says, specifically, ‘Ozzy Osbourne wrote all the songs. You had nothing to do with any of the writing, you have no claim to publishing, and you cannot say so publicly.’

And I looked at it. I’m looking at Sharon, and I said, ‘This is not what you told me before.’ And she says, ‘No, it isn’t.’

‘Why do you think I’m gonna sign it?’

‘Because if you don’t, we’ll give you a plane ticket, you go back home and you stand in line and you sue us. In the meantime, we have all your tracks, we’ll get another guitar player, he’ll redo your tracks, and you’ll have nothing.’

“That was mean. What am I gonna do? Really? Am I gonna say, ‘Fine. I’m going home. Take my tracks off. Some other guy will get all the credit for playing guitar, and I still have to try to sue you for the rights?’ It would have been just… not a good decision.

“Well, then, I refused to do [The Ultimate Sin] until I had a contract in front of me promising me writing credit and publishing."

Then he was fired after that record. Coincidence?
Posted by percy
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:37 pm to
Bob Daisley’s website discusses his whole history with the Osborne’s and the lawsuits.Fascinating stuff if anyone is interested.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 8:22 pm to
I think Ozzy gets a pass while Sharon takes all the hits, but I believe he’s not as naive as he claims about such matters. She plays the bully while Ozzy plays the unknowing idiot. Sharon also has a controlling interest in the Black Sabbath name. That band doesn’t tour unless Ozzy agrees to it despite the fact that you have both Tony and Geezer publicly stating they’d like to get out and play. That’s why you had them touring under the name Heaven and Hell with Dio shortly before he died. Sharon wouldn’t sign off on Black Sabbath touring with Dio
Posted by johnqpublic
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:28 pm to
I think Sharon is the puppet master and Ozzy is a very willing and knowing puppet. He is not without culpability but she is the primary bully. I don't give him a pass. If it had been one or two instances of Sharon being a bully and he put a stop to it, fine, but he has likely seen thousands of instances and continues to go along. I kind of found it interesting that he would contradict her so publicly.
Posted by LSU Jax
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Posted on 9/22/20 at 12:06 am to
RIP Lee.

Yeah I knew he and Bob got screwed over, as well as Jake. Good details here though from both you and Chizz.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/22/20 at 12:23 am to
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Sharon also has a controlling interest in the Black Sabbath name. That band doesn’t tour unless Ozzy agrees to it despite the fact that you have both Tony and Geezer publicly stating they’d like to get out and play. That’s why you had them touring under the name Heaven and Hell with Dio shortly before he died. Sharon wouldn’t sign off on Black Sabbath touring with Dio

This is the worst part to me. Iommi carried that name for about 15 years after Ozzy left, touring and recording new music with several different singers and musicians. They had all that time to stop him but didn't. The Heaven and Hell tour came after the reunion with Ozzy so maybe that's why Sharon took it. Iommi should own that name outright.
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