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re: Jason Isbell unloaded (link)

Posted on 6/2/13 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 6/2/13 at 8:29 pm to
For sure. Can't imagine working with an ex wife yet alone touring with her 24/7 on a bus. Plus, he's always seemed to have a weird relationship with the spotlight, even without that.

It's nice seeing hood-Cooley-isbell all get along and him occassionally joining dbt on stage these days. Also, really excited to see what he has up his sleeve on this record. I think it has potential to be some of his best work.
Posted by witty alias
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Posted on 6/2/13 at 9:40 pm to
I was listening to Razor Town on youtube, and some of the comments were saying that Dierks Bentley had a song that sounded a lot like Razor Town. This might be old, but I didn't know about it because I don't listen to Dierks Bentley, but it's pretty similar. Especially the chorus.

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Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/2/13 at 9:50 pm to
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Singer-songwriter Jason Isbell is mad at Dierks Bentley — really mad. Twang Nation first spotted the Muscle Shoals, Ala. artist ranting and raving via his Twitter page, accusing Bentley of plagiarizing his song ‘In a Razor Town’ to create the chart-topper ‘Home,’ and he doesn’t seem prepared to back down any time soon.

“‘Dierks’ has officially ripped off my song ‘In A Razor Town.’ Dierks is a d—–bag,” Isbell tweeted on Friday, later clarifying for his followers that “the song of Dierks is called ‘Home.’”

‘Home,’ which has peaked at No. 13 on Billboard’s Hot Country Songs chart, is the second single from Bentley’s forthcoming album with the same name, and a co-write with Brett Beavers and Dan Wilson, with whom Isbell is familiar.

After much back and forth with his fans, Isbell later tweeted to directly accuse Bentley of the theft, rather than the other two credited writers on the track. “I love @DanWilsonMusic’s songwriting, but I bet he’s never heard my song. I bet Dierks brought that idea to the table and Dan ran with it,” he said. “I have had too much stolen lately. Not gonna let this slide.”

Bentley apparently caught wind that his name was being dragged through the mud and started sending messages to the singer-songwriter, blowing off his accusations. “is that what you “bet” happened? that’s how you imagine it? #fantasyworld #getoveryourself,” Bentley asked, adding later, “JUST IN: “Nashville and LA songwriters running out of ideas..rushing to steal jason songs!”

On Sunday, however, Isbell’s fury ceased until things get cleared up. “I officially “can’t talk about it right now.” We’ll see what pans out,” he said.

While we wait for the truth to prevail, all we can do is speculate and have a listen to the two tracks, available below, to compare.


Ripped him off
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 6/2/13 at 9:51 pm to
It was a claim Jason made drunkenly once upon a time on twitter. Got ugly and Jason lost the legal battle.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/2/13 at 9:52 pm to
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“Nashville and LA songwriters running out of ideas..rushing to steal jason songs!”


Wow, Bentley is a real toolbag
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Posted on 6/2/13 at 9:52 pm to
Yeah, stole it from him big time...I remember seeing Isbell on twitter calling him "Dicks Bentley" "Douche Bentley" etc...Dierks denied it and called Isbell out.Lot of retard Nashville Country fans, mouthbreathed all over Isbell and trashed him. Calling him a worthless artist and a nobody. Which goes to show why new country fans are mongoloids
This post was edited on 6/2/13 at 9:53 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/2/13 at 9:53 pm to
Pretty obvious he ripped him off badly..

The same melody and chord progression
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 6/2/13 at 9:57 pm to
Excerpt from the article in the OP (I recommend the read, it's a good profile and I get the impression many are skipping it?)

These days Isbell is a popular and witty presence on Twitter, but in January 2012, a drunken tweet led to a feud with the country singer Dierks Bentley. Isbell claimed that Bentley’s single “Home” sounded too much like “In a Razor Town,” from Isbell’s 2007 album, “Sirens of the Ditch.” Isbell consulted a musicologist, who ultimately absolved Bentley and his co-writers, Dan Wilson and Brett Beavers, of plagiarism; the whole incident would end up costing Isbell a few grand in legal fees.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/2/13 at 10:18 pm to
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who ultimately absolved Bentley and his co-writers, Dan Wilson and Brett Beavers, of plagiarism


I'm sure the guy was paid off with dirty Nashville money
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 6/2/13 at 11:07 pm to
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Wow, Bentley is a real toolbag


To be fair, so is Jason. An insanely talented toolbag but a toolbag all the same.
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:01 am to
The funny thing is, Shonna just left DBT. Which means the door is possibly open for a reunion of some sort? I kind of doubt they will ever fully get back together, but I think now there is a real chance they will do some shows together, which was previously off the table.

Isbell had a pretty bad rep for being a jerk, mainly tied to his drinking. Glad he's gotten his life sorted out and I'm looking forward to his new album. I loved his last one, and Dress Blues is among the best songs he's ever done. I'm rooting for him -- he's a hell of a songwriter.

Look, Cooley is a drunk, too, but he's a sweet drunk. Also, he had the longer ties to Hood, which is why he's still in the band, and Isbell isn't.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:19 am to
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To be fair, so is Jason. An insanely talented toolbag but a toolbag all the same.


Well at least Jason isn't ripping people's songs

And I think dierks Bentley making a joke like Jason isbell is some sort of "joke songwriter" says enough about DB's character.
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:15 pm to
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The funny thing is, Shonna just left DBT. Which means the door is possibly open for a reunion of some sort? I kind of doubt they will ever fully get back together, but I think now there is a real chance they will do some shows together, which was previously off the table.


hes sat in on several shows, even when shonna was still a member. i dont think hes done full sets, but he has done full encores with the band. from the sounds of the quotes in the original piece, the breakup was more than just shonna and that they personality wise are not good over a long term.

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Isbell had a pretty bad rep for being a jerk, mainly tied to his drinking. Glad he's gotten his life sorted out and I'm looking forward to his new album. I loved his last one, and Dress Blues is among the best songs he's ever done. I'm rooting for him -- he's a hell of a songwriter.


drinking didnt help, but i get the impression that hes kind of... abrasive... even when sober. that he pretty firmly believes in a certain way things should be done and he doesnt much like when it strays outside of his way. not trying to say hes not talented, but i get the impression from my interactions with him, along with others i know and interviews that he can be a moody one. hopefully not being drunk/hungover, and going through sobriety and taking some stock of his own issues does help him get a grasp on that. i imagine if he were better liked as a man, his already high accolades would grow even more.
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 12:19 pm to
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And I think dierks Bentley making a joke like Jason isbell is some sort of "joke songwriter" says enough about DB's character


it does... but unfortunately, jason isnt going to get much sympathy for tweeting all kinds of nonsense at him first. sadly, the incident as a whole i think spoke volumes to jasons last 10 years.... within the music world hes so well respected, yet so little respect for him at the same time. hes earned it on both ends of that statement.

hopefully getting his head straight ends with him producing even better music, and living a happier and more positive life.
Posted by rsb831
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:15 pm to
Stream of new album.

Southeastern
Posted by MrCoachKlein
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:28 pm to
Thanks for the link, I'll give it a spin after work
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 1:34 pm to
Coach, how was the AA show?
Posted by MrCoachKlein
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:02 pm to
Had to bail at the last minute, friends came in from out of town and they weren't really interested in going. I saw them in April so I wasn't too bummed.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:04 pm to
Bummer! Was a good show. Packed house
Posted by MrCoachKlein
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:07 pm to
I'll catch them next time around, really want to see an acoustic show and laugh at the belligerent ranting from bj though
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