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re: Gilmour or Waters?
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:56 pm to Spaulding Smails
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:56 pm to Spaulding Smails
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you know there are other pink Floyd albums beside DOTSM right ACE?
Yes. But, from a legacy standpoint, the only ones that "matter" are Meddle, DSOTM, WYWH, Animals and The Wall.
I don't know what else to tell you. Syd overshadowed the band and, like a meteor, was gone in a flash. They foundered around before really hitting their stride with Roger's compositions riding on Gilmour's blues guitar and Wright's jazzy keyboards.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:58 pm to Ace Midnight
this may be unpopular but I never liked Syd's style. Pre-AHM floyd is almost unlistenable for me. There are a FEW songs from PatGOD/SOS that I won't skip on the ipod but in general I've never cared for those albums.
I know he gets credit for being a founder and the motivating force behind the band's creation, but still.
I know he gets credit for being a founder and the motivating force behind the band's creation, but still.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:06 pm to WG_Dawg
Syd was an incredibly gifted (ahead of his time), visionary and "nontraditional" musician. I don't question any of that or his influence on others, particularly his fellow members of Pink Floyd.
But, that just isn't what the average music fan thinks of when he thinks of "Pink Floyd" - that average fan is thinking of the era from DSOTM (maybe Meddle and, heck, maybe back to AHM) through The Wall (or, maybe, The Final Cut). The post-Roger Pink Floyd is treated as a separate category by most folks, and rightly so.
But, the "big 4" are really the Floyd albums with gravitas for me. I listen to DSOTM, WYWH and Animals, in their entirety, several times per year. The Wall, I'm more selective, but I listen to half a dozen songs from it on a regular basis, particularly Mother and Comfortably Numb. I also listen to The Final Cut somewhat regularly. I almost never go back further than Meddle on anything like a regular basis.
But, that just isn't what the average music fan thinks of when he thinks of "Pink Floyd" - that average fan is thinking of the era from DSOTM (maybe Meddle and, heck, maybe back to AHM) through The Wall (or, maybe, The Final Cut). The post-Roger Pink Floyd is treated as a separate category by most folks, and rightly so.
But, the "big 4" are really the Floyd albums with gravitas for me. I listen to DSOTM, WYWH and Animals, in their entirety, several times per year. The Wall, I'm more selective, but I listen to half a dozen songs from it on a regular basis, particularly Mother and Comfortably Numb. I also listen to The Final Cut somewhat regularly. I almost never go back further than Meddle on anything like a regular basis.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 4:09 pm to Ace Midnight
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Meh. I'm listening to it right now. Gunner's Dream, Not Now John and Two Suns in the Sunset are money.
It does have its moments, just way too depressing and drawn out. If you like the Meddle thru Wall era, try a little of Obscured by Clouds. It is a little known gem with a few really good tunes.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:55 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:I see your point but remember that most pre-AHM Floyd was going on when the Beatles were still singing "I want to hold your hand." For it's time it was ahead of the curve.
I never liked Syd's style. Pre-AHM floyd is almost unlistenable for me.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:16 pm to wolfonthebayou
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I see your point but remember that most pre-AHM Floyd was going on when the Beatles were still singing "I want to hold your hand."
Not quite. By '67-68 the Beatles were well into their experimental phase or whatever you want to call it.
However,
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For it's time it was ahead of the curve.
this is still a true statement.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:29 pm to wolfonthebayou
"But that's my pig up there."
Roger Waters Rolling Stone interview
Roger Waters Rolling Stone interview
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:04 am to TaserTiger
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I have never seen/heard anyone play steel guitar as skillfully as he can. He makes his steel guitar seductively "whine" through the octaves in a way that completely captivates and spell bounds the audience. Practically a trademark sound in many of Pink Floyd's songs (yes, even many of them in the Roger Waters era).
He conveys emotion through his guitar better than anyone else.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I'm 100 percent Gilmour and maybe I'm in the minority, but I love The Division Bell. I think it is some of gilmours best guitar work. Roger is an amazing lyricist though.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:47 pm to wolfonthebayou
Waters obviously in the early years after Syd, but then Gilmore slowly became the real man behind P.F.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 11:26 am to Tiger in Texas
Gilmour just performed in Pompeii again 45 years later
Posted on 7/8/16 at 3:12 pm to WG_Dawg
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this may be unpopular but I never liked Syd's style. Pre-AHM floyd is almost unlistenable for me.
I liked the music after Syd myself. I know its not popular but the post Syd music was better to me
I like DS but really like the later music
Posted on 7/8/16 at 3:12 pm to Tiger in Texas
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Waters obviously in the early years after Syd, but then Gilmore slowly became the real man behind P.F.
Same thing I said
David Gilmour carried them
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:27 am to wolfonthebayou
As a bassist, I lean towards Waters. He is underrated as a player IMHO.
As much as I love Gilmour's work, both as a lead guitarist, vocalist and composer, as a part of PF I'll stick with Waters.
For my money, "Granchester Meadows" off of Ummagumma is one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded, and it's 100% Waters (except for the sound effects).
And FWIW, my aunt sat next to Waters on a trans Atlantic flight in 1977 and said he was positively charming.
As much as I love Gilmour's work, both as a lead guitarist, vocalist and composer, as a part of PF I'll stick with Waters.
For my money, "Granchester Meadows" off of Ummagumma is one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded, and it's 100% Waters (except for the sound effects).
And FWIW, my aunt sat next to Waters on a trans Atlantic flight in 1977 and said he was positively charming.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 8:27 am to wolfonthebayou
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For it's time it was ahead of the curve.
I totally realize that, but that's not a reason for me to automatically like it.
I fully understand that they were breaking the mold in that music scene at that time. It's just that to me, personally, I don't like long, rambling 20 minute songs with no direction and few lyrics. Syd era floyd felt more like a bunch of young guys who loved acid and the underground music scene just jamming out and having fun. They didn't feel like a REAL BAND until after syd left.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 11:02 am to wolfonthebayou
I'm a Gilmour fan by far, guitar work is far superior than anyone else I've watched. No jumping up and down and head banging, awesome finger work with lots of deep feelings. Roger is awesome on lyrics, just listen to Final Cut completely through. Fantastic story line with lots of feelings. Long live Floyd!
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