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re: Gilmour or Waters?

Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:56 pm to
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you know there are other pink Floyd albums beside DOTSM right ACE?


Yes. But, from a legacy standpoint, the only ones that "matter" are Meddle, DSOTM, WYWH, Animals and The Wall.

I don't know what else to tell you. Syd overshadowed the band and, like a meteor, was gone in a flash. They foundered around before really hitting their stride with Roger's compositions riding on Gilmour's blues guitar and Wright's jazzy keyboards.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 2:58 pm to
this may be unpopular but I never liked Syd's style. Pre-AHM floyd is almost unlistenable for me. There are a FEW songs from PatGOD/SOS that I won't skip on the ipod but in general I've never cared for those albums.

I know he gets credit for being a founder and the motivating force behind the band's creation, but still.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:06 pm to
Syd was an incredibly gifted (ahead of his time), visionary and "nontraditional" musician. I don't question any of that or his influence on others, particularly his fellow members of Pink Floyd.

But, that just isn't what the average music fan thinks of when he thinks of "Pink Floyd" - that average fan is thinking of the era from DSOTM (maybe Meddle and, heck, maybe back to AHM) through The Wall (or, maybe, The Final Cut). The post-Roger Pink Floyd is treated as a separate category by most folks, and rightly so.

But, the "big 4" are really the Floyd albums with gravitas for me. I listen to DSOTM, WYWH and Animals, in their entirety, several times per year. The Wall, I'm more selective, but I listen to half a dozen songs from it on a regular basis, particularly Mother and Comfortably Numb. I also listen to The Final Cut somewhat regularly. I almost never go back further than Meddle on anything like a regular basis.
Posted by randybobandy
NOLA
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 4:09 pm to
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Meh. I'm listening to it right now. Gunner's Dream, Not Now John and Two Suns in the Sunset are money.


It does have its moments, just way too depressing and drawn out. If you like the Meddle thru Wall era, try a little of Obscured by Clouds. It is a little known gem with a few really good tunes.
Posted by wolfonthebayou
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:55 pm to
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I never liked Syd's style. Pre-AHM floyd is almost unlistenable for me.
I see your point but remember that most pre-AHM Floyd was going on when the Beatles were still singing "I want to hold your hand." For it's time it was ahead of the curve.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:16 pm to
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I see your point but remember that most pre-AHM Floyd was going on when the Beatles were still singing "I want to hold your hand."

Not quite. By '67-68 the Beatles were well into their experimental phase or whatever you want to call it.

However,
quote:

For it's time it was ahead of the curve.

this is still a true statement.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
24824 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:29 pm to
"But that's my pig up there."
Roger Waters Rolling Stone interview
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:04 am to
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I have never seen/heard anyone play steel guitar as skillfully as he can. He makes his steel guitar seductively "whine" through the octaves in a way that completely captivates and spell bounds the audience. Practically a trademark sound in many of Pink Floyd's songs (yes, even many of them in the Roger Waters era).


He conveys emotion through his guitar better than anyone else.
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:22 pm to
I'm 100 percent Gilmour and maybe I'm in the minority, but I love The Division Bell. I think it is some of gilmours best guitar work. Roger is an amazing lyricist though.

Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
21970 posts
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:47 pm to
Waters obviously in the early years after Syd, but then Gilmore slowly became the real man behind P.F.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/8/16 at 11:26 am to
Gilmour just performed in Pompeii again 45 years later
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/8/16 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

this may be unpopular but I never liked Syd's style. Pre-AHM floyd is almost unlistenable for me.


I liked the music after Syd myself. I know its not popular but the post Syd music was better to me


I like DS but really like the later music


Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69027 posts
Posted on 7/8/16 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Waters obviously in the early years after Syd, but then Gilmore slowly became the real man behind P.F.




Same thing I said


David Gilmour carried them

Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19387 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:27 am to
As a bassist, I lean towards Waters. He is underrated as a player IMHO.

As much as I love Gilmour's work, both as a lead guitarist, vocalist and composer, as a part of PF I'll stick with Waters.

For my money, "Granchester Meadows" off of Ummagumma is one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded, and it's 100% Waters (except for the sound effects).

And FWIW, my aunt sat next to Waters on a trans Atlantic flight in 1977 and said he was positively charming.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/9/16 at 8:26 am to
Gilmore
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89406 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 8:27 am to
quote:

For it's time it was ahead of the curve.


I totally realize that, but that's not a reason for me to automatically like it.

I fully understand that they were breaking the mold in that music scene at that time. It's just that to me, personally, I don't like long, rambling 20 minute songs with no direction and few lyrics. Syd era floyd felt more like a bunch of young guys who loved acid and the underground music scene just jamming out and having fun. They didn't feel like a REAL BAND until after syd left.
Posted by Fxr_ryder
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2016
90 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 11:02 am to
I'm a Gilmour fan by far, guitar work is far superior than anyone else I've watched. No jumping up and down and head banging, awesome finger work with lots of deep feelings. Roger is awesome on lyrics, just listen to Final Cut completely through. Fantastic story line with lots of feelings. Long live Floyd!
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