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George Harrison is the most underrated singer/songwriter

Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:50 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:50 pm
Of all time.

Criminally underrated IMO.

Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:55 pm to
Up there
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:17 pm to
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the most underrated singer/songwriter Of all time
Gene Clark

"For A Spanish Guitar" -- "That's a song I'd be proud to have written" - Bob Dylan

"Hear The Wind"

Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:28 pm to
Krishna, Krishna
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:45 pm to
Two figs DVed Gene Clark?

Posted by DaleGribble
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:27 am to
He's great, but I don't even think that he's the most underrated Beatle(Ringo).

Curt Smith and Roland Orzabal from Tears For Fears would get my vote.
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:17 am to
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Two figs DVed Gene Clark?

Don't know if the two other were figs but the third was definitely not.

I don't usually do these who's the greatest jerk off fests. So this is not another most underrated entry.... just one that's more so than your entry.... which like this one was more forgotten than underrated.

From: https://www.allmusic.com/artist/harlan-howard-mn0000663284/biography
Artist Biography by Jason Ankeny

Country music's preeminent composer, Harlan Howard boasted an unparalleled body of work encompassing well over 4,000 songs; the writer behind such perennials as "I Fall to Pieces," "Life Turned Her That Way," and "Heartaches by the Number," he scored major chart hits during every decade of the postwar era. Born September 8, 1929, in Lexington, KY, Howard and his family moved to Detroit just two years later. A devoted fan of the Grand Ole Opry radio show, his idol was the great Ernest Tubb, whose songs Howard attempted to copy down lyric by lyric; a number of words were subsequently lost in the translation, of course, forcing him to invent new lines -- sometimes even entire verses -- and in the process an aspiring songwriter was born. After graduating high school, Howard spent the next four years stationed in Fort Benning, GA, serving as a military paratrooper; in his off hours, he learned to play guitar, and each Friday night he and a friend would hitchhike to Nashville, spending the weekends soaking up live country music.

After leaving the service, Howard spent the last half of the 1950s traveling the country, accepting short-term jobs everywhere from Michigan to Arizona; he finally ended up in California, gravitating towards the Bakersfield area. There performers including Buck Owens and Wynn Stewart were developing the famed Bakersfield sound; Howard's fledgling compositional skills were recognized, and soon artists like Tex Ritter and Johnny Bond agreed to publish his songs. Then Stewart recorded Howard's "You Took Her off My Hands," and virtually overnight his work was in hot demand; with his wife, Jan Howard -- herself a rising country star -- recording his demos, in 1958 his "Pick Me Up on Your Way Down" was cut by Charlie Walker, and a short time later "What Makes a Man Wander" was covered by Jimmy Skinner. In early 1959, Kitty Wells scored with her rendition of "Mommy for a Day"; however, Howard's true breakthrough came later in the year, when his classic "Heartaches by the Number" became a smash for Ray Price. A pop remake by Guy Mitchell was also an enormous success.

In mid-1960, the Howards relocated to Nashville; he soon authored another hit for Price, "I Wish I Could Fall in Love Today," as well as a pair of tracks for Owens, "Excuse Me (I Think I've Got a Heartache)" and "Above and Beyond." Then, in 1961, Howard and Hank Cochran co-wrote arguably his best-loved song, "I Fall to Pieces," a crossover success for the legendary Patsy Cline. After penning the hit "Three Steps to the Phone (Millions of Miles)" for Jim Reeves, he then wrote a follow-up, "He'll Have to Go"; Reeves rejected the track, however, and it was passed on to George Hamilton IV, in whose hands it was a major success. (Reeves instead cut Howard's "The Blizzard," to significant acclaim.) In all, Howard notched 15 chart hits in 1961 alone; among his other notable compositions that year were "Heartbreak U.S.A." (covered by Wells), as well as "Under the Influence of Love" and "Foolin' Around" (two more by Owens). He was writing a minimum of two or three songs daily, with about a dozen of those recorded each week; not surprisingly, he was named Billboard's Songwriter of the Year two years running.

Also in 1961, Harlan Howard Sings Harlan Howard, his debut solo LP, was released; he cut several more albums in the years to follow, even scoring a minor hit a decade later with the single "Sunday Morning Christian," but a serious recording career was clearly never his intention. Instead, he remained Nashville's most prolific composer; between 1962 and 1963, his major hits included Johnny Cash's "Busted" (later a pop hit for Ray Charles), Price's rendition of "You Took Her off My Hands," George Jones' "You Comb Her Hair," Roy Drusky's "Second Hand Rose," and Johnny & Jonie Mosby's "Don't Call Me From a Honky Tonk." In 1964, Howard established his own publishing imprint, Wilderness Music, and Jones notched another hit with "Your Heart Turned Left (And I Was on the Right)"; the following year, he and Owens co-authored the latter's chart-topper "I've Got the Tiger by the Tail." In 1966, Howard and Tompall Glaser teamed to write the superlative "Streets of Baltimore" for Bobby Bare, and a year later wife Jan even hit with "Evil on Your Mind."

Sings Ol' Harlan
In 1967, Waylon Jennings issued Sings Ol' Harlan, an album comprised solely of Howard songs; that same year, Mel Tillis cut "Life Turned Her That Way," another of his greatest compositions (it was later successfully covered by Ricky Van Shelton). Hank Williams, Jr. scored in 1968 with "It's All Over (But the Crying)," but as the decade drew to a close, Howard fell prey to an extreme case of writer's block which threatened to derail him for the duration of the 1970s. Indeed, he scored only a handful of hits in the years to follow, among them a pair of chart-toppers, Melba Montgomery's "No Charge" and Charlie Rich's "She Called Me Baby." By the 1980s, Howard had settled into semiretirement, although he regularly tutored up-and-coming songwriters at Tree Publishing; in 1982, John Conlee dusted off his "Busted" and reached the Top Ten, and two years later a pair of his more recent gems -- "I Don't Know a Thing About Love (The Moon Song)," covered by Conway Twitty, and the Judds' rendition of "Why Not Me" -- reached number one. Other contemporary artists to hit with Howard's songs include Reba McEntire, Highway 101, and k.d. lang. Howard died on March 3, 2002, in Nashville.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 6:48 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:47 am to
Here's another that I'll also refrain from calling greatest... but include as maybe forgotten:

from: https://secondhandsongs.com/artist/16982

Songs written by Wayland Holyfield

Original songs
Title Written by Originally by Original date Covered by
All I'm Missing Is You Wayland Holyfield Don Williams 1978 Covered by (2 artists)
Break Away Gary Nicholson, Wayland Holyfield Gail Davies June 1984 Covered by Nicolette Larson
Could I Have This Dance Wayland Holyfield, Bob House Anne Murray June 1980 Covered by (24 artists)
Don't Count the Rainy Days Wayland Holyfield, Jerry Careaga Michael Martin Murphey February 23, 1983 Covered by John Conlee
Down in Tennessee Wayland Holyfield John Anderson March 1985 Covered by (2 artists)
Falling in Love Bob McDill, Wayland Holyfield Don Williams 1977 Covered by (2 artists)
Give It to Me Bob McDill, Wayland Holyfield Don Williams 1978 Covered by Tamra Rosanes
If a Broken Heart Could Kill Wayland Holyfield, Norro Wilson, Allen Henson John Anderson June 1982 Covered by (2 artists)
If I Had a Cheating Heart Wayland Holyfield, Al Turney Mel Street November 1977 Covered by Ricky Lynn Gregg
I'll Be Leaving Alone Dickey Lee, Wayland Holyfield Dickey Lee March 1976 Covered by (2 artists)
I'll Do It All Over Again Bob McDill, Wayland Holyfield Crystal Gayle February 24, 1976 Covered by (2 artists)
I'll Need Someone to Hold Me (When I Cry) Bob McDill, Wayland Holyfield Don Williams 1976 Covered by (5 artists)
I'm Getting Good at Missing You Wayland Holyfield Don Williams 1976 Covered by Patsy Riggir
I Never Will Get Over You Dickey Lee, Wayland Holyfield Dickey Lee March 1976 Covered by Ava Barber
Is There Anything I Can Do Gary Nicholson, Wayland Holyfield John Conlee July 1984 Covered by T. Graham Brown
I Take My Comfort in You Guy Clark, Wayland Holyfield Waylon Jennings January 27, 1986 Covered by Pirates of the Mississippi
It Amazes Me Allen Reynolds, Wayland Holyfield Charley Pride January 7, 1974 Covered by (5 artists)
It Took Us All Night Long to Say Goodbye Bob McDill, Wayland Holyfield Johnny Rodriguez August 5, 1975 Covered by Gary Allan
I've Got a Winner in You Don Williams, Wayland Holyfield Don Williams 1977 Covered by (2 artists)
Just Because It Feels Good Bob McDill, Wayland Holyfield Jimmie Peters August 5, 1977 Covered by (2 artists)
Just Can't Leave That Woman Alone Wayland Holyfield, Jim McBride Charley Pride December 1982 Covered by Moe Bandy
Just Hangin' On Wayland Holyfield Con Hunley November 1977 Covered by Mel Street
Meanwhile Wayland Holyfield, Fred Knobloch George Strait 1998 Covered by Liv Marit Wedvik
Rednecks, White Socks and Blue Ribbon Beer Bob McDill, Wayland Holyfield, Chuck Neese Johnny Russell September 24, 1973 Covered by (5 artists)
Some Broken Hearts Never Mend Wayland Holyfield Don Williams 1976 Covered by (39 artists)
Surround Me with Love Wayland Holyfield, Norro Wilson Charly McClain March 1981 Covered by Cynthia Schloss
Tears of the Lonely Wayland Holyfield Don Williams 1978 Covered by (4 artists)
The Best There Is Randy Goodrum, Wayland Holyfield Tammy Wynette January 1981 Covered by Charley Pride
The Love in Your Eyes Wayland Holyfield, Norro Wilson George Jones November 23, 1993 Covered by Jammy Jams
The One I Sing My Love Songs to Wayland Holyfield Waylon Jennings July 16, 1974 Covered by (8 artists)
'Til the Rivers All Run Dry Don Williams, Wayland Holyfield Don Williams June 1975 Covered by (11 artists)
When You Get to the Heart Wayland Holyfield, Norro Wilson, Tony Brown [US] The Oak Ridge Boys September 1983 Covered by Barbara Mandrell
You Don't Need to Move a Mountain Wayland Holyfield, Jim Rushing Jeanne Pruett January 25, 1974 Covered by (2 artists)
You'll Be Back (Every Night in My Dreams) Johnny Russell, Wayland Holyfield Johnny Russell June 1978 Covered by (2 artists)
You're Going Out of My Mind Wayland Holyfield, Jerry McBee Terri Gibbs 1983 Covered by T.G. Sheppard
You're My Best Friend Wayland Holyfield Don Williams April 1975 Covered by (32 artists)
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

I don't usually do these who's the greatest jerk off fests
Neither do I, but it was a chance to get Gene Clark some attention. So I waded in before the "He's the reason Megadeath is so awesome!!!" and "Weezy >>> Tupac" posts showed up.
quote:

quote:

Two figs DVed Gene Clark?
Don't know if the two other were figs but the third was definitely not
So if I get your implication you DVed my post? If it wasn't to DV me personally, may I ask why you would DV GC?
quote:

more forgotten than underrated
you'll have to explain the difference to me sometime

The rest of your post was kind of pointless. No one who knows anything about country music underrates Harlan Howard.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

The rest of your post was kind of pointless. No one who knows anything about country music underrates Harlan Howard.


Much the same. Because your post was kind of pointless.... since no one underrates Gene Clark.

They may of not heard of GC but that's not under rating him. It's just not being exposed. Same happens here weekly with some young guy I've never heard, until finding out he was in so-n-so also... and another rabbit hole. Wasn't personal... toward you or Gene... grew up listening to him.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 7:20 pm to
I concur. Named my son after him
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 7:47 pm to
The transition when you don’t have to deal with John Lennon and Paul McCartney anymore



Posted by 88Wildcat
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 2:55 am to
You are going to have to explain to me very slowly how a former Beatle can be labeled the most underrated anything.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:19 am to
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You are going to have to explain to me very slowly how a former Beatle can be labeled the most underrated anything.


One not named Paul or John? Seriously?
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 7:46 am to
Like there is anyone out there (particularly anyone over the age of 50 or so) who can't name the first names of all the Beatles. They were the Beatles, the Fab Four, they weren't Steely Dan.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 7:55 am to
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Like there is anyone out there (particularly anyone over the age of 50 or so) who can't name the first names of all the Beatles. They were the Beatles, the Fab Four, they weren't Steely Dan
How does that support anything concerning George and singer/song writing?
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:22 am to
He certainly did write the best Beatles songs
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:23 pm to
He’s not underrated at all
Posted by WannaPartyBoi
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:02 pm to
I can name @ least 5 WAY MORE critically neglected songwriters off the top of my head. NOTHING about the Beatles is underated. You can’t escape Beatles fans obsession with perpetually keeping them in the conversation. It’s like a form of autism.
Posted by WannaPartyBoi
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:05 pm to
I hit thumbs up and it gave you a thumbs down. Happens all the time on this board. Wtf? Anyway I support your statement Beatles are the worst and their fan base is slightly less obnoxious than TOOL’s galaxy brained fans.
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