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Frankenstein, the Edgar Winter Group

Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:20 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:20 pm
Takes me way back. And what a musician Edgar Winter is!

Fwiw, I just found out that the drummer, Chuck Ruff, died last year at age 60.

That's Rick Derringer (Rock & Roll Hoochie Koo) on guitar, and Dan Hartman on bass.



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This post was edited on 7/18/12 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:24 pm to
this song was the precursor to many black incursions into rock (that 'full' sound which only they seem to get, or if you're talking about the very few whites who get a full sound, you could say they're 'funky' which is not technically correct, but the closest way to describe it).

anyway, i think most of you know what i mean (as sound is difficult to verbalize, especially in a written format).
This post was edited on 7/18/12 at 1:25 pm
Posted by LSUballs
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:27 pm to
I went to the Delta blues musuem is Leland MS the other day and they had a shrine set up for Edgar Winter and his brother Johnny. Apparently they spent a good bit of their childhood there and that's where a lot of their musical talent derives from. Anyway, I be those white sumbitches stood out like a sore dick in Leland MS.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 2:20 pm to
fricking awesome song.

I believe Butch Vig said a while back that they were re-recording that song recently and Edgar had forgotten pretty much the entire thing
Posted by parrotdr
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 2:39 pm to
When I was dating my wife in the 90's, Edgar Winter came to Tipitina's in New Orleans. Her girlfriend called her with 2 tickets, so they went together.

They get home later, and I ask how the concert was. They BOTH say, "Great, but they never played "Smoke on the Water". We were in the front row yelling it the whole time, but they never played it!"




I married her anyway.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

When I was dating my wife in the 90's, Edgar Winter came to Tipitina's in New Orleans. Her girlfriend called her with 2 tickets, so they went together.

They get home later, and I ask how the concert was. They BOTH say, "Great, but they never played "Smoke on the Water". We were in the front row yelling it the whole time, but they never played it!"

I married her anyway.
Sounds like my wife.
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 6:08 pm to
Edgar is one of the few white dudes besides Jan Hammer that could rock the Keytar UNironically.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 6:32 pm to
brother Johnny was at BR blues fest a few months ago, awesome show ...
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

brother Johnny was at BR blues fest a few months ago, awesome show ...
I've seen johhny in concert several times here locally over the past few years. The man is not in good health, but he still sounds good compared to most of the crap I hear these days.
Posted by L.A.
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Member since Aug 2003
67008 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

this song was the precursor to many black incursions into rock (that 'full' sound which only they seem to get, or if you're talking about the very few whites who get a full sound, you could say they're 'funky' which is not technically correct, but the closest way to describe it).
Interesting.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 7/18/12 at 11:46 pm to
It was a good year for instrumentals in 1973. See also Herbie Hancock's "Chameleon".

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Posted by blueslover
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 9:23 am to
Rick Derringer still working the road hard. The last coupla years he n Edgar toured with Ringo Starr's All Star (Rockers With Walkers) Tour.

Johnny & Edgar toured a lot in south La & Tex before hitting it big. I saw them both in small bar venues. Can't remember where for Johnny. By chance anyone see Edgar Winter's White Trash ('70-71) at Slicks (Signorellis) in St. Martinville La?
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 10:17 am to
check out Phish's cover

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bad arse
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 11:38 am to
The original recording had Ronnie Montrose playing guitar. It's sad that Edgar Winter is the only surviving musician from the They Only Come Out At Night album. Ronnie Montrose, Dan Hartman and Chuck Ruff have all passed away.
Posted by L.A.
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

It's sad that Edgar Winter is the only surviving musician from the They Only Come Out At Night album. Ronnie Montrose, Dan Hartman and Chuck Ruff have all passed away.
I knew about Ruff and Montrose, but I didn't know that Hartman had died. That foursome was one of the most talented groups of musicians around at that time.
Posted by TupeloTiger
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Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 7/19/12 at 7:03 pm to
What happened to Jerry LaCroiz[Jackson] that sang a while in the White Trash. You do know that 3 or 4 old Boogie Kings from Louisiana were in White Trash in the early 70's. Drummer Bobby Rameriez was the first drummer and got murdered by the mafia over a Don's girlfriend in Chicago? I think. Jon Smith played sax first in White Trash, I knew him when I lived in Baton Rouge. I think Marshal Cyr played horns too. That's 4 Kings in White Trash. Do you know where they are? Jerry Lacroix is sick with heart failure and living with his mother in S.E. Texas, I heard. Edgar Winter's White Trash in 71 and 72 was the best live White band in America. I saw them several times. I played in bands too, and I can tell you White Trash was THE BEST. Awesome. Tight. They became the Edgar Winter Group without Jerry LaCroix on the second album.
This post was edited on 7/19/12 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Fat Man
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Frankenstein, the Edgar Winter Group

Takes me way back


Rocking an underdash mount 8 track. Turn it up!
Posted by TupeloTiger
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Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 7/19/12 at 8:26 pm to
Dandy Lion--- That sound is a tight R&B sound with horns and a B-3. The Boogie Kings had it, G G Shinn and the Roller Coasters, Chase, Tower of Power, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels, Booker T and the M.G.s , the early original Chicago all had it. White Trash was the best live band I ever heard in my life. I heard them in Baton Rouge in late '72 or early '73 and Monroe at that old mafia night club. Minus Jerry LaCroix, they went on to be The Edgar Winter Group. Same songs.
Posted by OldTigahFot
Drinkin' with the rocket scientists
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Rick Derringer still working the road hard.



Derringer at age 17 :

Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys



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