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re: Creed and Nickelback

Posted on 4/25/12 at 7:09 am to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 7:09 am to
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Which is exactly my point. Clearchannel took over most of the radio stations in the 2000's
Clearchannel had most stations in the 90's.

Musical tastes are pretty cyclical. Tastes moved heavily towards bubblegum R&B and Rap in the late 90's. This continued heavily into the 2000's.

Were it not for Creed and Nickelback, and bands like them, Rock would have faded from the airwaves. You can blame Clearchannel, but they are a business. They give their consumers what they want. They didn't get as big as they are by offering their consumers something they didn't want.

Nickelback had enough mainstream appeal to keep rock music on the radio during that period, which I appreciate.

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spawned tons of shitty bands to get major airplay on the radio.


lots of bands get radioplay. Insinuating that radioplay makes a band shitty, tells me that you are a child.

As far as cyclical musical tastes, right now is the time tastes generally move towards Rock. . .as R&B and Rap are falling out of favor. But sadly, there needs to be a new mainstream group to usher in the era. . .i.e. Nirvana. If such a band does not arrive, the vacuum will be filled by something else.
This post was edited on 4/25/12 at 7:15 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 7:47 am to
Both band are the epitome of success using lowbrow music. Many are attracted to lowbrow entertainment (WWE, Jerry Springer, etc...)

Many consider themselves music aficionado's, which highlights the tactics used for success by these acts as garbage

Its not that hard
Posted by TigerPanzer
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 8:52 am to
When I was growing up, Black Sab and and Grand Funk were the bands loved by the masses and hated by the critics. So now Sabbath is in the R 'n R HOF. Don't think we'll see Creed or NB there—no slam on my part, I don't give a shite about either band, although Scott Stapp-as-Jesus was amusing back in the day.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:04 am to
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Were it not for Creed and Nickelback, and bands like them, Rock would have faded from the airwaves. You can blame Clearchannel, but they are a business. They give their consumers what they want. They didn't get as big as they are by offering their consumers something they didn't want.


See, I don't listen to the radio for anything other than sporting events and PBR because of that. Rock music is as strong as ever right now, it's just that they have shifted their focus away from record industry control, thus radio airplay.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:11 am to
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Clearchannel had most stations in the 90's.


They started to acquire more stations in the late 90's after the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Most of the 90's weren't dominated by Clear Channel.

Are you seriously saying that bands like Creed and Nickelback are responsible for keeping "Rock" on the radio? :rotflmao:

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You can blame Clearchannel, but they are a business. They give their consumers what they want. They didn't get as big as they are by offering their consumers something they didn't want.

There is a difference between giving consumers what they want and telling them what they should want. A lazy person will accept your statement as truth.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:14 am to
There are good bands making good music, but if you think rock is stronger now than in the 60's, 80's, and early 90's. . .

I don't know what to tell you.

Rock culture led pop culture in those eras. Now it is led by r&b and rap.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:27 am to
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I like Tosh's stand up, but his show is really bad.


He pretty much plagiarized G4TV for most of his first season...
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:29 am to
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There are good bands making good music, but if you think rock is stronger now than in the 60's, 80's, and early 90's. . .

I don't know what to tell you.

Rock culture led pop culture in those eras. Now it is led by r&b and rap.


The rock music being made today is every bit as good as it was in any era of music. There is actually WAY MORE good music out there by way of information sharing. However, it doesn't receive airplay. That doesn't mean it isn't good or doesn't exist. It just means that it is not within the corporate clearchannel mold.
Posted by Jester
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:30 am to
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When I was growing up, Black Sab and and Grand Funk were the bands loved by the masses and hated by the critics. So now Sabbath is in the R 'n R HOF. Don't think we'll see Creed or NB there—no slam on my part, I don't give a shite about either band, although Scott Stapp-as-Jesus was amusing back in the day.



The Rock Hall of Fame is 100% crap. No Rush No Care.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:42 am to
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Were it not for Creed and Nickelback, and bands like them, Rock would have faded from the airwaves.

I actually think its those bands popularity that has lead to rock falling off the airwaves. If the average, casual listener thinks "rock" and thinks bands that lousy, they tend to write off the whole genre.
Posted by Sublime
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 9:47 am to
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Rock culture led pop culture in those eras. Now it is led by r&b and rap
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