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re: Country music fans -- important questions
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:51 pm to Flair Chops
Posted on 8/13/12 at 12:51 pm to Flair Chops
Correct.
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 1:02 pm to treble hook
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But this is when you saw alot of country turn more "mainstream" or "pop"
Probably so. I think there has to be a real good mixture/comination of country with a splash of mainstream.
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am personally not a huge fan of the outlaw country
I'm not anymore.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 1:35 pm to bobbyray21
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What can be done to reverse the trend?
I had hoped Jamey Johnson would help sway country back to a more traditional sound after he began gaining some praise from major music publications and critics in general a couple of years ago. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to have changed anything, and Johnson gets largely ignored by the billboard country stations. I can't recall ever hearing anything from The Guitar Song on country radio. If Johnson isn't good enough to have a positive influence I'm not sure it can be done at this point.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:02 pm to bobbyray21
Producers here in Nashville have to shoulder some of the blame. Nashville sessions are set up as 10-2,2-6,6-10. It's all well & good that folks are working, but it's very much an asssembly line with all the creative energy of a Walgreens.
Part of the homogenized sound is a direct result of that system. Time is money and scant few chances are taken, or actual bands used on recordings. Basically a hundred guys are playing on everything coming out of music row. Since they want to also stay employed, they use what they know worked on the last record, the producers accept this acceptable template and rubber stamp the results.
They are, to be sure world class players, but blazing chops and efficiency isn't what made Country great, and while there's really great singers here, it's hard to tell one from another once they've been through the cracker factory.
Part of the homogenized sound is a direct result of that system. Time is money and scant few chances are taken, or actual bands used on recordings. Basically a hundred guys are playing on everything coming out of music row. Since they want to also stay employed, they use what they know worked on the last record, the producers accept this acceptable template and rubber stamp the results.
They are, to be sure world class players, but blazing chops and efficiency isn't what made Country great, and while there's really great singers here, it's hard to tell one from another once they've been through the cracker factory.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:09 pm to Backinthe615
That's some deeper insight. Good points.
I myself loved country from the mid80s to late 90s. I can't stand this new stuff and I really don't care for the outlaw country either. I listen to Prime County XM 58 religiously. It's all pre-Rascal Flatts.
I sometimes wonder if new country is popular bc people like it, or if people like it bc that's what is being made. I bet most people will listen to and buy whatever is fed to them on the radio.
I myself loved country from the mid80s to late 90s. I can't stand this new stuff and I really don't care for the outlaw country either. I listen to Prime County XM 58 religiously. It's all pre-Rascal Flatts.
I sometimes wonder if new country is popular bc people like it, or if people like it bc that's what is being made. I bet most people will listen to and buy whatever is fed to them on the radio.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:22 pm to Gorilla Fingers
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That song inspired lots of that same type of "clever" lyrical twist that began to cheese up the whole thing.
The double entendre has been a staple of country music for years but, I agree, that song sucks.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 2:38 pm to Rocket
Great song. Posted on 8/13/12 at 3:23 pm to bobbyray21
Biggest problem is the amount of discretionary income available to 13-18 yr olds, mainly girls. Seriously. Look who attends most of the concerts now, buys CD, iTunes, etc. That's where the money is being made so they continue to cater to that demographic.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 3:26 pm to bobbyray21
Yea I agree with the person who said that Luke Bryan is the king of crappy Country music today.
Country girl shake it for me, was what solidified my decision.
I also don't think Eric Church falls into this crappy question. His old first CD, Sinners Like Me, was awesome
Country girl shake it for me, was what solidified my decision.
I also don't think Eric Church falls into this crappy question. His old first CD, Sinners Like Me, was awesome
Posted on 8/13/12 at 3:30 pm to bobbyray21
it's shania twain's fault. she wanted to be a rock/pop singer. however, when she went to audition, they told her that she couldn't sing good enough. So, she tried her vocals at country and succeeded. Now, every artist that can't cut it in pop/rock goes to the easier country vocals.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 3:34 pm to jose
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I also don't think Eric Church falls into this crappy question. His old first CD, Sinners Like Me, was awesome
Posted on 8/13/12 at 4:35 pm to treble hook
It's fair to cut the artists some slack though. I don't think they call the shots in recording companies.
Ronnie Dunn posted some stuff on his facebook last month that appeared to be critical of the music industry
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Ronnie Dunn posted some stuff on his facebook last month that appeared to be critical of the music industry
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 8:56 pm to TheDoc
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bobby, have you listened to american aquarium?
No
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:09 pm to Rocket
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What was being put out in the late 80's to the mid 90's is my favorite flavor of country music.
I agree -- I used to like country music in the mid 90s. And this was the country music they were playing on the radio.
The country music that gets played on the radio now is just exceedingly bad, imo. Clearly there are people that like it, or it wouldn't be on the radio, but I'd rather get kicked right square in the dick than listen to it for any non-appreciable amount of time.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:10 pm to bobbyray21
Which contemporary country artists write their own stuff?
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:25 pm to bobbyray21
Turnpike Troubadors.
They are everything that is right about country music, in my opinion.
They are everything that is right about country music, in my opinion.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:39 pm to bobbyray21
Many "artists" get song credits on their albums. Some are legit, but more are helped immensely from being teamed with ringers by their various publishers.
I don't have any problem in principal with that, since most careers aren't Garth Brookian and there's still bills to pay when the ride ends, but Harlan Howard left the building long ago.
I don't have any problem in principal with that, since most careers aren't Garth Brookian and there's still bills to pay when the ride ends, but Harlan Howard left the building long ago.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 9:45 pm to bobbyray21
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The country music that gets played on the radio now is just exceedingly bad, imo
Some of it real bad. The exception is for me is Dunn. Every now and then Jackson will put out something decent.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 10:31 pm to bobbyray21
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When did Country music start sucking so bad?
Where did it all go wrong?
Why did this happen?
Who is responsible?
Nashville songwriters, Larry Cordle and Larry Shell, wrote this in 1999. Larry Shell said it was what he had been feeling for at least 10 years.
Murder on Music Row - George Strait & Alan Jackson
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:04 pm to bobbyray21
quote:90s
When did Country music start sucking so bad?
quote:Women "country" pop singers
Where did it all go wrong?
quote:People didn't like real country, so they just renamed what they did like.
Why did this happen?
There is still good stuff. Josh Turner, Easton Corbin, ect. 85% bad though IMO. I do like the Church/ect type stuff, but it's not country. Especially not gilbert. straight rock.
I don't think real country music has a bright future.
quote:This. Pisses me off. Beginning to listen to the radio less and less.
Biggest problem is the amount of discretionary income available to 13-18 yr olds, mainly girls
Also today's country doesn't have any country feel. It has nothing to do with country lifestyle. Especially the RAscal figs. bullshite if i would see you with a banjo in the boondocks. STFU
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 11:08 pm
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