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re: Country Music - DNR

Posted on 7/24/12 at 7:39 am to
Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 7:39 am to
I hate Rascal Flats as much as or more than anyone, but you can't blame it totaly on them.
They were just trying to be the second coming of Alabama. A truly great group. (whose music was sort of a crossover/pop sound, I might add)

Who here thinks of Conway Twitty as a country ledgend? I do, but his music at the time was sort of a crossover/pop.

Now those to fine examples of good artists don't deserved to be mentioned along side of the raw sewage the spills from the radio these days, but I consider them to both be crossover/pop country.


If you're going to blame something, blame the sheeple that actually buy and listen to this new wave of junk that gets air time.
Posted by MC123
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 8:40 am to
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Who killed country music?


Nashville record execs. Garth was definitely the beginning of the shite movement. It was the moment in time that they realized they could sell bazillions of records with the "most marketable product". It has continued to decline and devolve into the awful pop/rock+catch country phrase bullshite that we hear today. It is the musical equivalent of message board trolling! And yeah there might be some great underground artists right now, but Nashville isn't promoting those guys. No one is except for themselves. The stuff you hear on the radio is the face of country music. It has become the most embarrassing genre and there is no amount of great underground artists that can make up for that IMHO.
This post was edited on 7/24/12 at 8:51 am
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 8:47 am to
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If you're going to blame something, blame the sheeple that actually buy and listen to this new wave of junk that gets air time


IT's not much different than car companies making what they think the markets want.

If Alan Jackson is putting pop in his country or someone is making him do it, it's more money.

That said, I think the country labels may have have been putting a little too much pop in the country that's been coming out the past decade or so.
Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 8:54 am to
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IT's not much different than car companies making what they think the markets want.


I like that example.
Posted by treble hook
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 10:02 am to
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IT's not much different than car companies making what they think the markets want.


The only problem with this statement is people are buying the records. So obviuosly there are people out there that like the music.

Except in the case of Taylor swift. Her dad bought several hundred thousand copies of her first album so it would go platinum.
Posted by Rocket
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:25 am to
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The only problem with this statement is people are buying the records. So obviuosly there are people out there that like the music


That was the point.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:47 am to
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Except in the case of Taylor swift. Her dad bought several hundred thousand copies of her first album so it would go platinum.


What in the frick?
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 11:52 am to
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What in the frick?



Agreed

And here I was thinking I couldn't dislike her anymore than I already do
Posted by treble hook
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 1:00 pm to
Can't confirm for a 100% but talked to one of the studio musicians that worked on her first album and he said the Swift family has huge money. Supposedly her dad pumped in mega dollars to jump start her career which including buying hundreds of thousands of records to boost sales on her first album.

I had heard the rumor before but never from someone that close to the business.

On a different note he said you wouldn't believe how much voice editing is on her records. I was like no I've heard her sing. I believe it.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 2:54 pm to
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On a different note he said you wouldn't believe how much voice editing is on her records. I was like no I've heard her sing. I believe it.
No joke. What you hear on the radio and what you hear on the award shows or other instances of her singing "live" it is like night and day. Last person I can remember hearing such a vast difference in live vs recorded singing voice was Axl Rose.
Posted by A Mite Ee One
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 2:59 pm to
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Music today sucks. IMHO.



WTF are you listening to?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 3:20 pm to
Not me
Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 4:05 pm to
Country died in 1989.
Posted by Chitter Chatter
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 4:05 pm to
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Who here thinks of Conway Twitty as a country legend?


Hell yeah I do.

I was bored this afternoon so I started looking at country chart info. There was a lot of crossover stuff in the 70's - 80's. I guess in all honesty, it's been going on for a long time. Some songs that come to mind:

Rhinestone Cowboy
Here You Come Again
9 To 5
No Getting Over Me
Islands In The Stream

I don't mind a crossover if it's good.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 4:16 pm to
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I don't mind a crossover if it's good.



And therein lies the problem. The modern formula is played out we need a second coming a breathe of fresh air if you will. Which is what your modern alt country is doing, gelling punk with country and southern rock with a master painters precision.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

Country died in 1989.


Disagree.

I think it was going to another level from then into the mid 90's.

Strait, Jackson, Brooks, Black, Chesnutt, Lawrence, etc. were making good stuff.

Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
Member since Dec 2003
11900 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 4:24 pm to
These are all solid, I will push country music's time of death to 1996!
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 4:29 pm to
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These are all solid, I will push country music's time of death to 1996!


Tritt, Stone, Byrd, Walker, Brooks and Dunn, Sawyer Brown, Ricky SHelton were also doing big hits.

This never gets old:

Chesnutt - I'll Think Of Something

John Anderson was busting out with Seminole Wind and Straight Tequila Night. Great time for country music.
Posted by treble hook
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/24/12 at 4:46 pm to
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I think it was going to another level from then into the mid 90's. Strait, Jackson, Brooks, Black, Chesnutt, Lawrence, etc. were making good stuff.



Damn I loved counry music in the 90s
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 7/24/12 at 5:04 pm to
Ricky Van Shelton had a few big hits

Shelton - I'll Leave This World Loving You

Living Proof

And Of course, Rockin' Years with Dolly.

I was coming up then, but life seemed to move slower. Alot of that music makes me nostalgic.
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