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Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:44 am to Galactic Inquisitor
I wish I was that cool
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:44 am to JohnZeroQ
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Why do you hate Porcupine Tree??
I don't! I was referring to RHCP
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:46 am to monsterballads
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I don't! I was referring to RHCP
Good, I thought that statement seemed out of the ordinary for you. I actually think RHCP has fantastic musicians. Both Frusciante and Flea have put out some really good music on the side, but RHCP as a band just seems kind of confining and generic for their talents.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:47 am to REG861
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I wish I was that cool
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:54 am to UPT
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Nirvana made the two most important albums of the last 25 years in Nevermind and In Utero. No one has made anything as brilliant, edgy, and important since.
Agree with this. If this thread was about best band of the 90's, they'd win. However, longevity must be factored into this discussion.
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Pearl Jam are a monster. No one important died, and they have been steadily trucking a long, still make new music, and still pack out the biggest venues.
Agreed
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Blind Melon with Shannon Hoon may not have lasted very long, but I'm not sure they made a bad song. Those few albums were great top to bottom.
Agree, but once again, longevity is a big factor.
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I'm not sure Tool they have the mainstream appeal of the above but an important and huge band none the less.
Tool's issue is their last album came out 9 years ago. If they had one more big release in that time span, they would be higher on the list.
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RATM somehow were a good enough band that they could get away with being militant pinkos and still be one of the biggest bands on the planet.
Love Rage, but I loved Audioslave much more. It's a shame they only did like 2 albums. Also, RATM hasn't done an album since the 90's per my knowledge, but I could be wrong.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:01 am to kingbob
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Right on cue. How's your favorite jam band's latest live album? I
You made a very stupid suggestion. The Offspring? Give me a fricking break.
Like or it not, Phish is most certainly in contention for the title of best band of the last 25 years. Their contributions to the live music scene are insurmountable and only an idiot would disagree.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:05 am to kingbob
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If this thread was about best band of the 90's, they'd win. However, longevity must be factored into this discussion.
I strongly disagree. The best music made in the last 25 years, which is the topic of this thread, was heavy between 1990 and 1995.
What Nirvana and Blind Melon did in their few years was better and more important than anything anyone else has done since.
I'm not into giving Green Day extra points because they hung around longer and made music later in their careers to make money that the 20 year old versions of themselves would have pissed on. That goes for a couple of bands like RHCP as well.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:07 am to UPT
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I'm not into giving Green Day extra points because they hung around longer and made music later in their careers to make money that the 20 year old versions of themselves would have pissed on. That goes for a couple of bands like RHCP as well.
+1
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:13 am to UPT
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I'm not into giving Green Day extra points because they hung around longer and made music later in their careers to make money that the 20 year old versions of themselves would have pissed on. That goes for a couple of bands like RHCP as well.
GAHHHHHH rabble rabble how dare these bands come out with music that fits the evolution of the industry.
This is by far the worst type of music snob. "THEIR OLD STUFF WAS SO MUCH BETTER THE NEW MUSIC MAKES ME WANT TO VOMIT!!!!"
Please name one current band that didn't evolve as they got older and music became more refined, all while maintaining mainstream success.
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 11:15 am
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:23 am to ShamelessPel
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Please name one current band that didn't evolve as they got older and music became more refined, all while maintaining mainstream success.
U2. They sound just as shitty and formulaic today as they did 30 years ago.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:20 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
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Like or it not, Phish is most certainly in contention for the title of best band of the last 25 years. Their contributions to the live music scene are insurmountable and only an idiot would disagree.
Phish don't don't write important songs or make important albums. They play important shows sometimes.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:24 pm to ShamelessPel
quote:No I'm the worst type of music snob
GAHHHHHH rabble rabble how dare these bands come out with music that fits the evolution of the industry.
This is by far the worst type of music snob
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:51 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
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Like or it not, Phish is most certainly in contention for the title of best band of the last 25 years.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 12:52 pm to kingbob
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Tool's issue is their last album came out 9 years ago.
And it was mediocre.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:11 pm to UPT
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Nirvana made the two most important albums of the last 25 years in Nevermind and In Utero. No one has made anything as brilliant, edgy, and important since.
I wish people would stop saying Nirvana would have been the best if...
I don't think their music is all that important or impressive. In my opinion they are one of the most over rated bands ever.
I do not like Nirvana
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:24 pm to JohnZeroQ
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I don't think their music is all that important or impressive. In my opinion they are one of the most over rated bands ever.
I do not like Nirvana
That's fine if you don't like their music but they are very important. Kurt's song writing is impressive to me but I can see how they're not for everyone.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:32 pm to Kayhill Brown
I just think his death is the thing they use to justify their greatness.
Its all a big what if.
Its all a big what if.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:43 pm to JohnZeroQ
My opinion of Nirvana is that they had a unique style that completely changed rock music (for better or worse) forever. They were incredibly influential despite their short duration. Even though their music isn't that great to me now (heck my favorite song by them is a David Bowie cover), their influence on music as a whole cannot be understated. While some people see Kurt as some martyr, I think Nirvana would have spun out on its own and faded in the late 90s even if Kurt hadn't died. Their music was good, but its appeal was in how different it was from everything else at the time.
By the late 90s, it would have lost its novelty and cache, but who knows. Perhaps Cobain could have reinvented himself like Eddie Vedder did and maintained relevance. Perhaps the band's sound would have changed causing people to believe Nirvana "sold out". Maybe they would have broken up naturally so Dave Grohl could start Foo Fighters. Maybe Foo Fighters never happens and Cobain ends up holding Grohl's role in today's pop culture.
Who knows. There are so many what-if's because we didn't get time to find out if Nirvana could evolve. With so many bands, we only get a glimpse of the one sound they had at one short window in one short career. Other's, we get to see a bright beginning and a long slow decline, others see a continuous rebirth and reinvention while others stay consistent and fight to avoid becoming bland. We can only speculate as to what Nirvana could have been, all we can go off of is what they produced in the short time they were together.
By the late 90s, it would have lost its novelty and cache, but who knows. Perhaps Cobain could have reinvented himself like Eddie Vedder did and maintained relevance. Perhaps the band's sound would have changed causing people to believe Nirvana "sold out". Maybe they would have broken up naturally so Dave Grohl could start Foo Fighters. Maybe Foo Fighters never happens and Cobain ends up holding Grohl's role in today's pop culture.
Who knows. There are so many what-if's because we didn't get time to find out if Nirvana could evolve. With so many bands, we only get a glimpse of the one sound they had at one short window in one short career. Other's, we get to see a bright beginning and a long slow decline, others see a continuous rebirth and reinvention while others stay consistent and fight to avoid becoming bland. We can only speculate as to what Nirvana could have been, all we can go off of is what they produced in the short time they were together.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:58 pm to kingbob
Nirvana may have changed the game but imo they sucked. Soundgarden and Alice in Chains are far and I mean FAR superior to them. Not even a contest. shite, Mother Love Bone was way better than Nirvana. If I would rank the Seattle bands I'd probably rank them close to last.
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