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re: Best Band of the past twenty-five years

Posted on 4/11/15 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 11:59 am to
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All these young whippersnappers with their revisionist reading of history are flat out fricking wrong. These other bands, no matter how good, did NOT exist outside of Seattle suburbs. They had no mentionable following.

I'm not some young whippersnapper. What you're saying is somewhat true. My earlier statement was to address that AIC or Soundgarden wouldn't have been popular without Nirvana. I don't think it's true. If you were paying attention, you knew about Soundgarden & AIC.

That said, there's really no debating that Nirvana helped catapult those bands to the stratosphere though.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 12:33 pm to
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For the most part yes. But some of the 120 minute or "alternative" type groups were getting more popular. The shift was starting to occur. The Cure, Depeche Mode, The Cult, Jane's Addiction, REM, U2 and like I posted before Alice in Chains. It seemed there was a more definitive line of mainstream and college/alternative at that time.


Well okay but that was all possible because of Sonic Youth. They were the John the Baptist to Nirvana's Jesus and the rest were just disciples.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:29 pm to
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Well okay but that was all possible because of Sonic Youth. They were the John the Baptist to Nirvana's Jesus and the rest were just disciples.

all what? Grunge scene's appeal?

I've posted that before Sonic Youth, Jane's Addiction, Dinosaur Jr, all seemed to be grunge before that label was around.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:48 pm to
Grunge is a made up term, it doesn't really mean anything.

Sonic Youth, Nirvana, and later Sleater-Kinney are all punk

AIC, Soundgarden are basically metal, descendants of Black Sabbath.

STP are hair metal without the flash and add distortion and depression.

Smashing Pumpkins are dream pop indie
Posted by lsugal121212
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 1:57 pm to
The Cure is the answer.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:32 pm to
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Grunge is a made up term


Well WTF is dream pop indie?

seriously, WTF is that? If you want to get knit-picky about subgenres of subgenres of genres then I;d say Sonic Youth is this post-punk art noise rock.

Don't get me wrong, I know what you're inferring but if somebody posted Grunge you have a better idea of reference than if somebody broke out the other.

To be honest, I gotta go google dream pop indie now and I'm not sure how STP got drug into this and disagree about the hair metal without the flash mixed in with depression and distortion.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:34 pm to
Well you can quibble about some of these terms but "grunge" is literally something Kurt made up as a joke for an NYT article and they ran with it.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:38 pm to
Rock n roll is a made up term too.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:40 pm to
Your face is a made up term
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:46 pm to
after googling dream pop indie,
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