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re: A note on the Varsity and bookings
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:05 pm to tigeralum06
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:05 pm to tigeralum06
How can you prove that they do not care about music?
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:14 pm to TheDoc
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Posted by TheDoc quote: The Varsity can get Deftones, but they can't get Alabama Shakes. The former has won Grammy's and sold millions. the deftones have sold 8 million records and won a grammy alabama shakes is nominated for one and hasn't sold a million records yet so, you actually are wrong. on both counts.
The former refers to the Deftones, bro. Basic English, man. We serious?
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:16 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
corrected, I read it wrong

Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:17 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
There clearly seems to be 2 sides to this discussion: those who like "alternative rock", and those that don't.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:19 pm to wilceaux
There's always 2 sides to a music discussion: those that like the music and those that don't. I just don't get why the latter has to always shite on the former instead of letting them enjoy what they like and discuss it with others. Everyone has different tastes.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:20 pm to tehchampion140
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Everyone has different tastes.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:20 pm to TheDoc
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what are the numbers of those shows?
they haven't happened yet. And you don't have access to their private contracts. But you're really hung up on this. This is just you wanting to be the "insider" with all of the "expert" knowledge.
Similar sized venues are booking these shows. That's all I need to know. They aren't running charities either.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:22 pm to tehchampion140
Ask anyone that works at the varsity how often they see the owners besides gamedays. Once maybe twice a year. Compare that to their restaurants.
The ownership of the varsity has not changed over the years, but there have been ups and downs as far as the acts that are booked. This is a result of who the talent buyer is at the time. An owner that cared about which bands were booked would not have allowed the molly ringwalds, chee weez, etc to fill up half the calendar for each month as long as they did.
If the owners cared, they would make the investment to expand the upstairs and increase capacity which would help the talent buyer compete. An extra 200 people at a soldout $20 show id an extra 4k for a band. It
The ownership of the varsity has not changed over the years, but there have been ups and downs as far as the acts that are booked. This is a result of who the talent buyer is at the time. An owner that cared about which bands were booked would not have allowed the molly ringwalds, chee weez, etc to fill up half the calendar for each month as long as they did.
If the owners cared, they would make the investment to expand the upstairs and increase capacity which would help the talent buyer compete. An extra 200 people at a soldout $20 show id an extra 4k for a band. It
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:22 pm to tehchampion140
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Everyone has different tastes.
Precisely. Which is why I'm arguing that the Varsity should book more than just 90s survivors. I'm not saying it's a bad thing they booked the Deftones. I'm saying they could book other shows as well. TheDoc is arguing that they can't.
Which is completely unbelievable to me.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:26 pm to Baloo
Doesn't the Varsity book a lot of varied things already, though? I guess they might not book the stuff you want, but that happens a lot. I'm very fortunate that I will have seen 3 of my favorite bands in the Deftones, Chevelle, and 10 Years but there are plenty of other artists that I like that don't get booked.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:26 pm to Baloo
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Similar sized venues are booking these shows.
even if 1400 and 800 were "similar" (they aren't)
you can't compare dallas to baton rouge... that is apples and thumb tacks
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:26 pm to Baloo
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Which is why I'm arguing that the Varsity should book more than just 90s survivors.
Can't believe they haven't brought back Soulhat.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:30 pm to TheDoc
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even if 1400 and 800 were "similar" (they aren't)
Which ignores I also used a 600 person venue. And your argument was that the bands were too small to play the 800 person Varsity yet they're playing a 1400 person venue. So these same too small bands are too big to play Baton Rouge because it's such a podunk burgh.
It's such a duplicitous argument. But have fun jacking up ticket prices $15 over the tour average like you were bragging, because that's what's best for Baton Rouge music fans... Paying more for the same show.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:31 pm to TheDoc
Doc you are correct. Varsity will have trouble competing with hob cuz they can book a band at each of their cities. Varsity needs to expand their size to compete with tips in nola and to make sure they never lose another band to the Texas Club (ex. Govt mule years back)
They could also work with some of the other sec college town venues and book the bands the night before they olay in oxford.
They could also work with some of the other sec college town venues and book the bands the night before they olay in oxford.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:33 pm to Baloo
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But have fun jacking up ticket prices $15 over the tour average like you were bragging, because that's what's best for Baton Rouge music fans... Paying more for the same show.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:36 pm to Baloo
i'm not going to get into this, because you are clueless about talent buying, but bands have guarantee's... an 800 person venue compared to a 1000 person venue, the ticket prices will adjust accordingly.
the varsity, to get the act, couldn't make them lower their price just because.

the varsity, to get the act, couldn't make them lower their price just because.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:37 pm to tigeralum06
tigeralum, you get it.
HOB will buy a whole tour. can't compete with that most of the time.
but here's the varsity's calendar in october:
In 1 month:
Kendrick Lamar
Cody Canada & The Departed
The Revivalists
BUSH
Big Krit
10 years
Red Jumpsuit Apparatus
Josh Abbott Band
Casey Donahew Band
Zoogma
FIGURE
Matisyahu
MUTEMATH
Rebelution
Robert Earl Keen
The Expendables
Iration
Perpetual Groove
Earphunk
one month. look at the calendar before alex took over...
HOB will buy a whole tour. can't compete with that most of the time.
but here's the varsity's calendar in october:
In 1 month:
Kendrick Lamar
Cody Canada & The Departed
The Revivalists
BUSH
Big Krit
10 years
Red Jumpsuit Apparatus
Josh Abbott Band
Casey Donahew Band
Zoogma
FIGURE
Matisyahu
MUTEMATH
Rebelution
Robert Earl Keen
The Expendables
Iration
Perpetual Groove
Earphunk
one month. look at the calendar before alex took over...
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:40 pm to TheDoc
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Kendrick Lamar
Cody Canada & The Departed
The Revivalists
BUSH
Big Krit
10 years
Red Jumpsuit Apparatus
Josh Abbott Band
Casey Donahew Band
Zoogma
FIGURE
Matisyahu
MUTEMATH
Rebelution
Robert Earl Keen
The Expendables
Iration
Perpetual Groove
Earphunk
thats a nice line up.
wish I could of seen P-Groove.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 2:42 pm to TheDoc
I agree it is an improvement. Hopefully, the new guy is making money for them and the cover band crowd moves over to the casino.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 3:07 pm to Baloo
survivors of 90's? there's has been like 3 bands from 90's in the past 3 years
Look at that October list, they've pretty much touched based on every genre. How can you whine this hard when you don't like this ONE band. I don't like Deftones, never got into them, but anyone who has followed the Varsity's bookings since AB took over cannot complain about not meeting their musical tastes.
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