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re: 5 Subtle Clues Your Favorite Band Secretly Sucks

Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:57 pm to
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I think it's beautiful. Phish fans and Panic fans and the Doc working together in perfect harmony. Why it almost brings a tear to my eye

Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:59 pm to
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Didn't we see the same show? Are you tone deaf?


I didn't come till Friday. I just knew they played.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:01 pm to
Kevin Gates >>> Bobbygeigh


Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:19 pm to
Can't we come together and realize that Phish and Passion Pit BOTH suck?

Anyway, I do agree with the article that bands that can't make a decent studio album are deeply flawed. I've seen the Dead, I've seen Phish. The reason people enjoy their live shows has little to do with the music. It's the party atmosphere (you thought I was gonna say drugs, didn't you?). It's the feeling of belonging to a tribe. I get that. It's not my tribe, but I understand why people love them.

But the fact they can't write and record a decent album does speak volumes. To be fair, I think most bands today suffer from the opposite problem: they record an album before they have any live chops. It's almost too easy to form and record a band before you have played much live. And that's how you get good.

I do agree that music was meant to be heard live. I'm a huge fan of live music. But that's no excuse for lousy songwriting. A great live band will eventually be able to capture that sound on an album, if they are a great band.

ETA: Also, to be fair to the author of the article, he ripped on his own favorite band, too. Just in a different section. One that I related to.
This post was edited on 9/26/13 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:30 pm to
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Anyway, I do agree with the article that bands that can't make a decent studio album are deeply flawed. I've seen the Dead, I've seen Phish. The reason people enjoy their live shows has little to do with the music. It's the party atmosphere (you thought I was gonna say drugs, didn't you?). It's the feeling of belonging to a tribe. I get that. It's not my tribe, but I understand why people love them.
It has nothing to do with the "tribe". I've never been to a Phish or Dead show and they are two of my favorite bands. It has everything to do with the music.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:33 pm to
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It has nothing to do with the "tribe". I've never been to a Phish or Dead show and they are two of my favorite bands. It has everything to do with the music.


This.

I don't like phish but Grateful Dead is one of my favorite bands and I've never seen them live. I listen to tier live shows because they were kings of improvisation.

They also had some very good songs.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:33 pm to
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the Dead
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But the fact they can't write and record a decent album does speak volumes
Except they did; numerous times.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:37 pm to
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I listen to tier live shows
no escaping the tiers, even on the music board
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:37 pm to
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They also had some very good songs.
Exactly. I love a lot of their songs that they don't jam all that much to like Jack Straw. Frankly I find it insulting that people say they are only liked because of drugs, party atmosphere or whatever because I don't find that to be true at all. They play their style of music better than anyone and if you don't like that style fine but don't act like it isn't good music just because people are enjoying themselves and you aren't into it.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:44 pm to
To be honest,

I didn't really like the grateful dead until I smoked weed, but I really didnt listen to a lot of music before I smoked.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:44 pm to
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Exactly. I love a lot of their songs that they don't jam all that much to like Jack Straw. Frankly I find it insulting that people say they are only liked because of drugs, party atmosphere or whatever because I don't find that to be true at all. They play their style of music better than anyone and if you don't like that style fine but don't act like it isn't good music just because people are enjoying themselves and you aren't into it.


"They're not the best at what they do they're the only ones that do what they do" -- bill graham
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:47 pm to
Same for me but I was sober driving the first time I really listened to them so it's not like I had some kind of musical transformation when I started smoking
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:48 pm to
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"They're not the best at what they do they're the only ones that do what they do" -- bill graham
Posted by danman6336
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:49 pm to
this thread is an abortion
Posted by Sublime
The Rocky Mountains
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 9:09 am to
Oasis > Beatles
Method Man, Common & DMX > Tupac
now DMB > Grateful Dead

Bobbyray you fricking troll
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 10:01 am to
Disco Biscuits > every other "jam band"
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 10:16 am to
Method man is better than Tupac.
Posted by Sublime
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 10:30 am to
cheese > disco biscuits
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 10:36 am to
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The reason people enjoy their live shows has little to do with the music. It's the party atmosphere (you thought I was gonna say drugs, didn't you?). It's the feeling of belonging to a tribe. I get that. It's not my tribe, but I understand why people love them.



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