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re: Your top 5 Science Fiction Movies all time..
Posted on 1/8/12 at 1:34 pm to constant cough
Posted on 1/8/12 at 1:34 pm to constant cough
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I think he's even a better film critic than he is a director.
He's one of the few writers/directors who seem genuinely enthused on those DVD commentaries.
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Posted on 1/8/12 at 1:37 pm to Zamoro10
The man knows a lot about movies. He's probably forgotten more than any of us know.
Sure he borrows a lot from others but eh nothing wrong with that if it's done well, and his movies are.
Sure he borrows a lot from others but eh nothing wrong with that if it's done well, and his movies are.
Posted on 1/8/12 at 1:37 pm to constant cough
Max Headroom
Brother from Another Planet
Starman
ET
Fflight of the Navigator
Brother from Another Planet
Starman
ET
Fflight of the Navigator
Posted on 1/8/12 at 1:51 pm to VOR
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By those technical definitions, it may be considered science fiction. But thematically, it's really more of a western saga or tale of the knights of your. The narrative isn't based upon the technology itself, and there is no there is no threat or mystery based upon an alien threat (in the broader sense) or technological threat.
The theme of the story is based off of medicholirens (sp?) unless biology isn't a science you are wrong.
Posted on 1/8/12 at 2:29 pm to LSUtigersarefun
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The theme of the story is based off of medicholirens
that's the new trilogy, which is totally shitty and nobody is discussing. that actually was a big "frick you" to the original trilogy by lucas, because he turned the mythical force into a biological event (which kind of completely dismisses the entire idea)
it has no place in the original trilogy. remember how people treat jedi in the first movie? it's a myth that nobody really believes can be effective in real life (at their present). if there was a biological base, then they'd be a lot more accepting of it
Posted on 1/8/12 at 2:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
I thought my case was pretty solid for the original series.
I did add mass cloning. . .because the Clone Wars were mentioned in the first movie.
There had to be some biological base. . .on account of the hereditary nature of the force.
I did add mass cloning. . .because the Clone Wars were mentioned in the first movie.
There had to be some biological base. . .on account of the hereditary nature of the force.
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 1/8/12 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that's the new trilogy, which is totally shitty and nobody is discussing. that actually was a big "frick you" to the original trilogy by lucas, because he turned the mythical force into a biological event (which kind of completely dismisses the entire idea)
SO the first 3 are sci fi but the last three are not?
Posted on 1/8/12 at 3:03 pm to LSUtigersarefun
In every Star Wars movie, the Sith and other bad guys have superior tech or a superior abundance of tech that is overcome by the good and often the good without technology at their disposal.
I would say that the overuse of technology to hurt others and fighting against it with simpler means is a classic scifi "story."
I would say that the overuse of technology to hurt others and fighting against it with simpler means is a classic scifi "story."
Posted on 1/8/12 at 3:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if we're using that loose definition of science, then why is willow or lotr not sci-fi with magic essentially replacing science? as was said in the movie thor, they're basically teh same shite
As I stated in my post one of the definitions of science fiction is the incorporation of unknown or enhanced technologies and science that are not available here and now. When magic enters the equation you have fantasy.
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 1/8/12 at 3:45 pm to wilfont
agreed Lotr and Willow fall under Sword and Sandal fastasy adventure movies were as Star Wars is pure......
Sci-Fi
Any college teacher teaching something else is reading more into the movie than should be.
BTW it is a copy of of a Sword and Sandal romantic comedy adventure.
Sci-Fi
Any college teacher teaching something else is reading more into the movie than should be.
BTW it is a copy of of a Sword and Sandal romantic comedy adventure.
Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:31 pm to tigger1
Science Fiction requires themes where non-existent, but potentially possible, science is used to drive the plot.
Star Wars is fantasy as its main themes are not driven by potential science.
Star Wars is fantasy as its main themes are not driven by potential science.
Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:34 pm to Antonio Moss
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Science Fiction requires themes where non-existent, but potentially possible, science is used to drive the plot.
Star Wars is fantasy as its main themes are not driven by potential science.
There. That's it.
But I always used the simpler definition to distinguish between Sci-Fi and Fantasy...
If a Unicorn could appear in the movie and nobody would think twice about it...it's Fantasy.
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 1/8/12 at 4:52 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Laser swords, Galactic empires, faster than light travel, spaceships, laser guns, Death star, giant robots, weird aliens, Interstellar travel, sentient ai, droids, etc.
Science Fiction requires themes where non-existent, but potentially possible, science is used to drive the plot.
All these things drive the plot of Star Wars to varying degrees.
No sci-fi movie is driven entirely by science.
If Star Wars is not Sci-Fi, then there is no such genre as sci-fi.
Originally, sci-fi was used to define any genre that had aliens, or space travel. Star Wars has both.
This post was edited on 1/8/12 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if we're using that loose definition of science, then why is willow or lotr not sci-fi with magic essentially replacing science? as was said in the movie thor, they're basically teh same shite
Thor maybe, but I don't see how you could possibly make an argument for LotR being sci-fi.
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:11 pm to CAD703X
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or battle for terra:
In Cameron's defense, he certainly didn't rip off this film due to the fact that it was well into production and basically finished by the time this film came out. If anything, someone heard of Cameron's concept and ripped it off for Battle of Terra. I'd say his biggest rip-off next to Dance's with Wolves was likely Princess Mononoke, its just Cameron completely missed the point of the film and removed pretty much all subtle aspects to it.
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:14 pm to Roaad
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There had to be some biological base. . .on account of the hereditary nature of the force.
Who ever said it was hereditary.... aside from the prequels?
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:27 pm to Froman
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Jenny Agutter
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:54 pm to Roaad
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If Star Wars is not Sci-Fi, then there is no such genre as sci-fi.
Exactly. Star Wars is the epitome of science fiction by definition of the genre.
Posted on 1/8/12 at 5:54 pm to Antonio Moss
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Science Fiction requires themes where non-existent, but potentially possible, science is used to drive the plot.
Star Wars is fantasy as its main themes are not driven by potential science.
Agree. That's what I was getting at in my earlier post. The advanced science is really incidental to the actual theme and plot. The basic story could take place with swords and bows and arrows, really.
Posted on 1/8/12 at 6:24 pm to VOR
quote:You could do the same thing with most stories.
The basic story could take place with swords and bows and arrows, really.
The Matrix, for example.
Just replace tech, with magic.
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