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Will Batman ever be the same without Christopher Nolan directing?

Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:50 pm
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:50 pm
I spent this past week/weekend watching Batman Begins, Dark Knight, and Dark Knight Rises. I have to say, whoever does this next Batman movie/series has their work cut out for them.

Christopher Nolan is a freaking genius. Plus, I don’t know if anyone can replace Christian Bale as the Caped Crusader.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108557 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:53 pm to
I’ve been saying this for years, but Batman should go the way of the Bond franchise. Give little thought to continuity and just make the movies stand up on their own. Batman’s universe is as strong as Bond’s (if not stronger), so I don’t see why it couldn’t work.

Unfortunately everything is held in place by a cinematic universe, and the clowns in charge with DC have no clue what they’re doing even if individual directors do.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:58 pm to
It seems like you're contradicting yourself a bit
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36061 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

I’ve been saying this for years, but Batman should go the way of the Bond franchise.

Literally what they’ve done since day one.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:09 pm to
The IP of Batman is bigger than the Nolan movies.

Had they done a proper Batman movie before BvS, Bat-fleck & The DCEU would be crushing it.

Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6349 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:20 pm to
My only wish is that I could give more than one downvote.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9792 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:35 pm to
Is there another Heath Ledger?Without him that trilogy is pretty ordinary and really nothing special..
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:43 pm to
Your post gets at the heart of the matter. Batman is made by his villains. It has always been that way. DC is somewhat the opposite of Marvel in this regard. Marvel’s heroes are their focus, and the villains (Thanos and, to some extent, Magneto notwithstanding) are pretty uninteresting. DC’s heroes, on the other hand, tend to be vanilla, and the villains are the interesting characters. The next time they decide to make a Batman vs. the Joker movie, it will be much more important who they get to play the Joker than it will be who they get to be Batman.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51630 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 10:50 pm to
I think Matt Reeves will give us a better film than any of Nolans
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31590 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:24 pm to
Batman simply doesn’t need to be a part of a connected universe other than his own. A perfect scenario would be a youngish, maybe Mid-30’s Batman that is down to do multiple, multiple films like RDJ/Hemsworth for MCU.

Then find someone similar for a Nightwing/Batgirl separate movies after the youngish Batman gets a little older and has a few movies under his belt. The Nightwing/Batgirl movies can introduce other Batman villains at the same time. Then do a connected universe within the Batman world with the occasional team up movie.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:41 pm to
I'm sure they will be different.


But the money isnt in the over the top batman forever/and Robin type of feel.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51630 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

Is there another Heath Ledger?Without him that trilogy is pretty ordinary and really nothing special..



Batman Begins is a great comic book film.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:09 am to
What about put a universal DC villain, or a villain who usually rivals another character in a batman film. Having it to where it starts with batman, can set things up for another future character to have a rivalry too.

Not just a "Batman enemy".
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 12:11 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35534 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:43 am to
No it won't be the same.

And different is good.

Why can't it be different?

Most people love Tim Burton's Batman and it's totally different than Nolan's Batman.

Different takes aren't bad. Plus we needed new blood if you wanted more Batman movies, the last one was stale both with the Director and Bale.
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 12:47 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65114 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:51 am to
Batman has two things going for him:

1. The character of Bruce Wayne/Batman is one of the most interesting comic book characters in either the DC or Marvel universes.

2. Batman's rogue's gallery is arguably the best and deepest of the DC and Marvel universes.

This should not be hard.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 6:23 am to
quote:

Will Batman ever be the same without Christopher Nolan directing?



quote:

Christopher Nolan is a freaking genius.


Nah

quote:

I don’t know if anyone can replace Christian Bale as the Caped Crusader.

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30131 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 6:40 am to
quote:

Plus, I don’t know if anyone can replace Christian Bale as the Caped Crusader.



I never really bought into Bale as Batman. You can't be 180lbs and have the physical presence to really be Batman. Speaks to how good the Nolan movies were that the main character was a relatively weak link. Affleck was a much better representation of the Batman character than Bale.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 7:37 am to
Bale was at least a solid 220 in BB
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40106 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 7:39 am to
Short answer is: NO
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
3903 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:27 am to
As far as Nolan’s trilogy goes, I think Begins is the best film with Dark Knight following closely behind largely due to Joker. Rises just wasn’t good.

I’m hopeful for Reeve’s detective-centric take on the character. Hopefully we get another physically imposing individual like Affleck. I’d be ecstatic for the same fight choreographer as well. The “Saving Martha” scene is the best Batman fight in all of Batman live action.
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 9:39 am
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