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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:39 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:39 pm to RLDSC FAN
Bc people want something new. They keep bitching about nothing original. Unless it’s Star Wars. Then they want the same exact thing they saw 30-40 years ago. But better. Never be able to please them
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 5:40 pm to biglego
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I actually enjoyed the humor in TLJ. Humor was not the problem for me
Posted on 2/11/19 at 6:27 pm to RLDSC FAN
First off MCU used humor in their movies from the jump. I never winced at the humor in a MCU movie. I did multiple times watching the TLJ. I also winced at other parts that weren't supposed to be humorous in TLJ. Leigh Poppins for one.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:46 pm to YNWA
MCU gets shite for the overuse of bathos. People don’t get all worked up about it like Star Wars because they make good stories and mostly get the right people in the right roles. They also respect the source material. It’s easy to let something like this go when you get an overall decent movie experience.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:04 am to RLDSC FAN
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TLJ for "too many cheap jokes.
Cheap is another way of saying unfunny.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:48 am to kciDAtaE
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Bc people want something new. They keep bitching about nothing original. Unless it’s Star Wars. Then they want the same exact thing they saw 30-40 years ago. But better. Never be able to please them
Isn't that the point of making a sequel? I know it happens so rarely but the reason people want sequels at all is to see the same thing they liked the first time, only better.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:20 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Because it's been funny in the MCU. It wasn't funny in TLJ. It was mostly lame.
And we are done here. Thank you all for coming out.
People don't mind humor, even in dramatic movies. What they dislike is poorly done humor. TLJ had a lot of jokes that bombed.
What is frightening is those were the best gags. There were plenty more that did not make the final cut that were even worse.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:25 am to saintkenn
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Because we had the original trilogy that set the tone and fans wanted a continuation of that world, not all that crap beginning with The Cartoon Menace
FTFY
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:39 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:he said that in 2017............I can tell my wife she is the only one woman i have ever slept with but that doesnt make it true.
Star Wars creator George Lucas took the stage at Star Wars Celebration today to remind people that the series has always been for children.
Lucas told actor Warwick Davis, who was moderating the event’s opening panel, that Star Wars was always intended to be enjoyed by “12-year-olds.” He went on to admonish critics for “being mean” and talk about what Star Wars stands for in his mind.
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You need to read up about Gary Kurtz and the direction after ESB.
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Kurtz has claimed that he and George Lucas clashed over how to progress the Star Wars series. Kurtz claimed that after Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1981, Lucas became convinced that audiences no longer cared about the story and were simply there for thrills and entertainment, and began to deviate from the originally planned plotlines for Return of the Jedi, at which point Kurtz quit the series - though opposing sources state that he was fired by Lucas due to his mishandling of The Empire Strikes Back which went massively overbudget and overschedule.[23] Kurtz has also claimed that Lucas changed the emphasis from storytelling to prioritizing toy merchandising.[24] In a 2010 interview for the L.A. Times, Kurtz revealed that he had become disillusioned with what he saw as the commercially-driven direction the franchise was taking, as well as the related changes that Lucas made to the plot of the third movie, which was originally much darker, and supposedly included the death of Han Solo.[25]
All of this is what lead to teddy bears in RotJ instead of wookies ripping stormtroopers limbs out, and all of the Prequels.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:38 am to RLDSC FAN
Not by me, they are both stupid.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:41 am to CarRamrod
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All of this is what lead to teddy bears in RotJ instead of wookies ripping stormtroopers limbs out, and all of the Prequels.
The prequels had good stories, but they were drowned in commercialism. Lucas was clearly trying to hit every possible demographic.
It also confirms that star wars was not in fact a kids movie...at least in the beginning, but over time for merchandising became for "12 year olds" because Lucas chose that direction.
After TLJ, does Lucas really think the narrative/story didn't matter?
Did Lucas never talk to any fans ever? Wtf.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 10:42 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:08 am to RLDSC FAN
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Why the double standard?
There is no double standard. The jokes in MCU movies for the most part were well placed and the timing was done well.
TLJ the jokes were horribly placed with horrible timing.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:39 pm to CarRamrod
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Kurtz claimed that after Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1981, Lucas became convinced that audiences no longer cared about the story
How would Raiders lead one to conclude that audiences no longer cared about the story?
It's not a fricking Michael Bay movie.
It has a real story, love interest, Nazi's, foreign location...it's the action Casablanca.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:45 pm to RLDSC FAN
This is what I posted in a thread similar to this a few weeks ago...
Exactly. Star Wars humor is dry (Han Solo) and that works perfectly for that universe, because the situations that take place in the SW universe don't exist like they do in the MCU (ex. Your momma jokes being funny in MCU/real world). There were signs of it in TFA, but the humor in TLJ completely took me out of the film.
The moment Luke threw the lightsaber after Rey gave it to him, the theater erupted with laughter. I wasn't sure what to do. Honestly I could see a scenario where Luke threw it over his shoulder in disgust, but apparently RJ and the audience intended it to be humorous. The tone of TLJ was never consistent, and damn sure wasn't in line with the rest of the Star Wars movies.
Exactly. Star Wars humor is dry (Han Solo) and that works perfectly for that universe, because the situations that take place in the SW universe don't exist like they do in the MCU (ex. Your momma jokes being funny in MCU/real world). There were signs of it in TFA, but the humor in TLJ completely took me out of the film.
The moment Luke threw the lightsaber after Rey gave it to him, the theater erupted with laughter. I wasn't sure what to do. Honestly I could see a scenario where Luke threw it over his shoulder in disgust, but apparently RJ and the audience intended it to be humorous. The tone of TLJ was never consistent, and damn sure wasn't in line with the rest of the Star Wars movies.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:42 pm to RLDSC FAN
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It’s not like Star Wars are some serious films made for adults.
You shut your mouth right now!
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:38 pm to Bad_Mojeaux
Does what George Lucas have to say really matter? He has so little to do with the success of the Star Wars franchise it's insane. I mean, he did shoot most of the footage for A New Hope, but the credit for that movie goes entirely to the editors. And then Empire was Irvin Kershner. Want to know what Star Wars would be if Lucas was entirely in charge? Go watch the holiday special.
As for Thor Ragnarok, some of the jokes may have fallen flat, but I bet you laughed a few times. It's not really asking to be taken seriously. It's a straight up buddy-comedy movie. Compare that to TLJ. Did you even crack a smile during the opening "comedy?" That phone call bullshite? Is being put on hold even a thing in the Star Wars universe? Because all I did was cringe for the first 10 minutes.
As for Thor Ragnarok, some of the jokes may have fallen flat, but I bet you laughed a few times. It's not really asking to be taken seriously. It's a straight up buddy-comedy movie. Compare that to TLJ. Did you even crack a smile during the opening "comedy?" That phone call bullshite? Is being put on hold even a thing in the Star Wars universe? Because all I did was cringe for the first 10 minutes.
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