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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
That film was way different than the first two. Yet everyone's ok with that. But TLJ decides to add a little silliness and it's "ah hell no."


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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
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DisplacedBuckeye
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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
Adding humor wasn't the problem.

It just sucked. If it were funny, no one would have bitched as much as they have.


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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
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Lucas always said the films were made for kids
he only said this AFTER ESB and he realized the money wasnt in the movie but the toys.


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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
Ragnarok only has the end as a bad scene disrupted by the comedy but it's really just hammering Odin's truth to Thor about the people. And the stinger makes up for it.


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OMLandshark
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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
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That film was way different than the first two. Yet everyone's ok with that.


Because they didn't quite know how to handle Thor the first two times. Both of those films are in my bottom 1/3 of Marvel movies. Thor 1, everything interesting is happening in Asgard and it's a buzzkill when you go to Earth. Thor 2 I'd probably only put it above Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron, and probably tie it with Iron Man 2. If Kevin Feige could go back and redo two movies, I'm willing to bet they would be Thor 1 and 2. I don't think they realized how funny Chris Hemsworth was either.


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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
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Star Wars creator George Lucas took the stage at Star Wars Celebration today to remind people that the series has always been for children.

Lucas told actor Warwick Davis, who was moderating the event’s opening panel, that Star Wars was always intended to be enjoyed by “12-year-olds.” He went on to admonish critics for “being mean” and talk about what Star Wars stands for in his mind.



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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
Waititi, mixing Ragnarok with Planet Hulk, and the Thor movies were silly through out.


Thor had the fish out of water sequences.

Dark World had a Scooby Doo chase. While trying to develop an edge.


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blueboy
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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
How about because the jokes were somewhat funny, whereas the TLJ jokes were fricking stupid?

And that's only about 10th on the list of reasons that movie sucked.


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Nguyener
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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
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, the OT is definitely kid friendly


Sure to a point. But it has a serious tone to it.

Luke finds the burned charred bodies of his aunt and uncle. It's what spurs his decision to join the resistance and become a Jedi.

He watches his mentor die.

He has a hand cut off.

He watches his dad die.

There's plenty of gravitas. There's stakes. There's character and plot progression. There are goofy moments too but they're never out of place or bizarre. Outside of some shite in Return I'd rather not discuss.

Many people point to Yoda as a great example of stupid comedy. However, what is often overlooked is that that was not just stupid comedy. That was a test. It had a point. Yoda was messing with Luke. As soon as he gets serious and says "you will be" . From that point forward he is an extremely serious mentor.

To cross this over to Marvel, yes Tony Stark's has a lot of stupid shite and stupid jokes. But he also has a lot of character development and he has some serious lines. For instance, when Captain America says he's fighting him because Bucky is his friend, Iron Man looks hurt and says I thought I was your friend. That's a great line and it comes from character development and humor that fits the universe.

The last jedi has none of this.

The Last Jedi was a mind rape of epic proportions. I've never seen a movie so awful. Acting, directing, script, plot, pacing, story, etc... Is just objectively awful in literally every single aspect of film making. Then you add in the shite he took on Luke and the force and all the lore of the star wars universe. Then you add in the obvious contempt for the fan base both the director and studio showed.

frick that movie. frick everything about it.
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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
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The OT was full of cheap jokes too.


Leia and Han arguing because of sexual tension and saying "why you stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking Nerfherder" isn't a cheap joke.

It's not like Luke blew up the Death Star and said: "Well I guess they should've plugged that hole, if you know what I mean?"


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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
i think you do bring up something that ive never been a big fan of in marvel movies, the humor they use often to undercut emotional/dramatic moments of the movie as i just think thats a cheap ploy that ultimately hurts the story. but i think most people, when criticizing the humor from TLJ as opposed to the MCU, do so because so much of that humor in TLJ was just tossed in willy/nilly and had no real place in either the characters or the story and in many ways hurt the characters themselves. the yo mama joke for example

i enjoy humor that arises from natural interaction between two characters and you get more of that in the MCU than you got in TLJ. even if i feel like marvel can be a little too heavy handed with it for my personal taste
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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
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It's not like Luke blew up the Death Star and said: "Well I guess they should've plugged that hole, if you know what I mean?"




More like he would have been on the phone with Darth Vader at the time, and said
knock knock.
Who's there.
The force be with.
The force be with who?
The force be with you!

And then he launches the Torpedoes and blows up the Death Star
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OMLandshark
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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
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i enjoy humor that arises from natural interaction between two characters and you get more of that in the MCU than you got in TLJ. even if i feel like marvel can be a little too heavy handed with it for my personal taste



The reason it works with Marvel is they tend to take their time with the characters. It feels natural because they feel like real people. They also don't come right the frick out of left field like the lesbian professor who is now in charge of the Rebellion. Finn, Rose, and Rey don't feel like real people in TLJ, while Tony, Thor, and Quill do even if they are completely absurd.


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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
agreed


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emanresu
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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
The original star wars was overwhelmingly a space drama with comedic moments. That's what audiences expect.

The latest movies attempt to be a space comedy with dramatic moments. And we're not looking for a comedy.


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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
I actually enjoyed the humor in TLJ. Humor was not the problem for me. The older I get the more I want to see humor in movies.


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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
This is like asking why is one movie considered funny but another isn’t.


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BranchDawg
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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
It's not as simple as that. Low-brow humor can either work or not work based on timing, writing, acting and whether or not it fits with the overall tone of the movies/franchise or even just within that particular scene.

There are times where the low-brow stuff has not worked in Marvel movies. The zucchini joke in AoU is still considered one of the low spots of that movie. There are probably other examples, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

Comedy is not as simple a formula as people think it is.


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re: Why is low brow humor so loved and accepted in the MCU, but reviled with The Last Jedi
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There's a difference between funny moments and characters making awkward, out of place jokes like they're Tony Stark.



This and anyone who can’t see the difference is just trying to be contrarian


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