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re: Who is at fault for the GOT disaster finish?
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:52 am to Athos
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:52 am to Athos
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Season 5 says you’re totally wrong. As does season 7&8,
Convenient to leave out season 6, eh? And by whatever metric you want to use besides your own personal opinion season 5 is rated as high, if not higher, than its predecessors. Yeah, people had very understandable complaints with season 7 (which still has ratings similar to season 1-6), but fans didn't really go apeshit on GOT and D&D until about the time Arya killed the Night King.
And I agree that seasons 7 and 8 were a rush to the finish line and I explicitly referenced the fact that they wanted to get out of GOT ASAP and that's what led to the struggling finish, but the widespread hatred for D&D didn't become "cool" until midway through this season.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:05 am to theGarnetWay
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the widespread hatred for D&D didn't become "cool" until midway through this season.
I didn't start disliking them until a week ago. AFter i had time to absorb the final episode and just think about how horribly they ended the job. How much they just forgot. I mean, you had legitimate backstory to characters and season 8 they just ignored those stories because they forgot. Then the rush to end the whole thing. And then Bran??? "Who has a better story than Bran the broken?" Literally every other character on the show. Not to mention the numerous contradictions throughout the last couple seasons of why Bran didn't even want to be King, and him just turning into a bird, again, for no reason, during the battle in ep. 3.
So much failure on D&D's part. And it's all becasue they wanted to hurry to get to Star Wars, which will continue to be a horrible failure because the premise is over, and the entire star wars universe should have ended after the return of the jedi.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:05 am to Soup Sammich
Can we just move on good lord
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:17 am to theGarnetWay
5 was a disaster but people just didnt know better/didnt want to accept it yet after the greatness that was 4. hardhome was lone bright spot, just like BotB was the only bright spot of 6.
7 is every bit as bad as 8
7 is every bit as bad as 8
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:21 am to cfish140
It’s only been a week since the show is ended, and this is only one of just two GoT threads on the front page. So it’s not like there’s an influx of GoT complaint threads.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:29 am to theGarnetWay
It’s not that it’s cool. It’s that it’s the end. With season 7, people still had hope that they would end it well. But half way in season 8 it became obvious they wouldn’t. If someone died (like the NK) that was that. There’s no redeeming it because the story is over. With the earlier seasons, issues with certain storylines could be fixed (at least fans thought) because it wasn’t the end.
In addition people started to hate them more when it was revealed (about half way through the season) they were the ones who shortened it. Post episode comments like “Dany forgot about the Iron Born” didn’t help either.
In addition people started to hate them more when it was revealed (about half way through the season) they were the ones who shortened it. Post episode comments like “Dany forgot about the Iron Born” didn’t help either.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:31 am to Soup Sammich
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 10:33 am
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:46 am to Soup Sammich
HBO wanted 10 episode seasons for Seasons 7 & 8 and wanted 10 seasons total so it isn' them.
D&D were completely lost without source material to work from. The way they came to the 'ending' that GRRM gave them was laughably bad.
GRRM shares some blame for being a lazy fat obese slob and not finishing his source material.
HBO was advocating for as many GOT seasons as possible. Can't blame them.
D&D were completely lost without source material to work from. The way they came to the 'ending' that GRRM gave them was laughably bad.
GRRM shares some blame for being a lazy fat obese slob and not finishing his source material.
HBO was advocating for as many GOT seasons as possible. Can't blame them.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:46 am to Jake_LaMotta
D&D deserve 95% of the blame but some of you are incorrectly giving HBO a free pass on this. Yes, they advocated for more seasons and more episodes in each season but they could've done much more. They could've just fired D&D once they knew how they would ruin the franchise and found someone else who was willing to take on the challenge.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:57 am to Soup Sammich
There is a lot to be passed around.
On one hand, DnD didn’t sign up to write fan fiction. They did an amazing job adapting these books to a TV show. I think The book based TV shownis better in a lot of ways than the books.
GRRM is probably gonna end up writing books that are probably the length of 4-6 books.
So where he left them off st Season 5 they probably would need 4-6 more full seasons to get from the end of book 5-end of book 7.
I get Being like “we didn’t sign on for an 11 year show where we have to guess at the last 5 seasons”
ON THE OTHER HAND
They could have done so much better even with the time they had.
On one hand, DnD didn’t sign up to write fan fiction. They did an amazing job adapting these books to a TV show. I think The book based TV shownis better in a lot of ways than the books.
GRRM is probably gonna end up writing books that are probably the length of 4-6 books.
So where he left them off st Season 5 they probably would need 4-6 more full seasons to get from the end of book 5-end of book 7.
I get Being like “we didn’t sign on for an 11 year show where we have to guess at the last 5 seasons”
ON THE OTHER HAND
They could have done so much better even with the time they had.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 1:55 pm to SammyTiger
I think its pretty remarkable they kept the entire cast together except all the mountains. The book story has flaws most of which all the time Dany spent in Easteros doing things that didnt matter. The show mirrored those flaws and shot a couple of seasons that were just not needed and exhausted the quality of the show. Nobody had much left for the end. People moving to next project new jobs. Bottom line, they all stretched it out too much and should have been happy to focus on just core characters and story. I still enjoyed both books and show. The show ending was just not very good. Would have been better to end it two or three years ago.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 2:02 pm to Rou Leed
All the character development in Meeren was a mummers farse because in the end all characters betrayed the character they exhibited there. And ultimately nothing was really accomplished. Could have just made dothraki huge, no greyworms crew. Get on a boat when dragons hatch. Go to Dorne. Dragons grow. Go North eventually. Probably what they would have done with a completed work by GRRM. But i think HBO got Littlefingered by GRRM. He has last laugh and maintained control of an ending people still want to read. They ended up spending more time on mereen and all the secondary events there than the long night and sack of kings landing.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 2:18 pm
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