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Where do you stand on the huckleberry vs huckle bearer debate?

Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:59 am
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:59 am
Yes, I know it isn't really disputed because the script says huckleberry, but does that line even make sense?

"I'm your huckleberry" theoretically means I'm the right man for the job.

"I'm your huckle bearer" means I am your pallbearer which makes 100x more sense coming from a man who is there to kill you.

having seen the movie at least 50 times, and watched it a lot more you can hear both versions depending on what you want to hear. I choose to hear huckle bearer as it makes more sense to me.

I imagine this will be down voted to Oblivion, but I'm curious of your thought.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:01 am to
How does I am the right man for the job not make sense?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:02 am to
I had no idea this was a thing

its obviously
quote:

"I'm your huckleberry"
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:02 am to
quote:

I had no idea this was a thing

its obviously

quote:
"I'm your huckleberry"



Don't think it really is a thing.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Where do you stand on the huckleberry vs huckle bearer debate?


It's not a debate.

It's huckleberry.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32711 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:07 am to
quote:

How does I am the right man for the job not make sense?

Because the meaning is only derived from what people want it to mean. I'm your huckleberry has no inherent meaning.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:10 am to
You are looking way too hard.

"don't any of you have the guts to fight for blood?"
"Im your huckleberry"


Later on

"Im your huckleberry"
...
...
"I was just fooling about"


It's a direct call back.

He even says it in the exact same tone.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 9:13 am
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9642 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:13 am to
"You're a daisy if you do" isn't something I heard a lot before Tombstone. I always just figured they were using old-timey colloquialisms that had long-since fallen out of common use. BTW, it is definitely, without a shred of doubt, "Huckleberry".

Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:14 am to
quote:

"I'm your huckle bearer" means I am your pallbearer which makes 100x more sense


well look at the big brain on brad
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:17 am to
quote:

I imagine this will be down voted to Oblivion


You were right about one thing in this post
Posted by DLSWVA
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:17 am to
I’m somewhat torn on this subject. I appreciate learning the meaning of “huckle bearer,” but I prefer the spoken line as “huckleberry.”

Can we consider it a form of linguistic compounding with a derivation of “bearer” into “berry” thus giving it the same meaning? It could also be an effect of regional dialect. In parts of rural Appalachia, it is common to add an “e” sound to the end of words. I used to work with someone who pronounced “borrow” as “bar-ee.”
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:18 am to
quote:


"I'm your huckleberry"


ETA: didn't know there was a debate
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 9:19 am
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:20 am to
quote:

"You're a daisy if you do" isn't something I heard a lot before Tombstone. I always just figured they were using old-timey colloquialisms that had long-since fallen out of common use. BTW, it is definitely, without a shred of doubt, "Huckleberry".


Yup. Daisy was a popular flower in those days because of how tough it was. Basically saying he isn't anything special.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:22 am to
quote:

’m somewhat torn on this subject. I appreciate learning the meaning of “huckle bearer,” but I prefer the spoken line as “huckleberry.”

Can we consider it a form of linguistic compounding with a derivation of “bearer” into “berry” thus giving it the same meaning? It could also be an effect of regional dialect. In parts of rural Appalachia, it is common to add an “e” sound to the end of words. I used to work with someone who pronounced “borrow” as “bar-ee.”


No reason for that. It is literally Huckleberry. It is Huckleberry in the script and Huckleberry was something used in history. Doc was supposed to be well-learned.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32711 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:33 am to
quote:

It is Huckleberry in the script

I know it is huckleberry. I think huckleberry much have been an error in translation to the script.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:43 am to
They had trouble translating a script that a guy from Detroit wrote?

It is a callback. Nothing more.






Also, using the "pallbearer" version would be kind of lame anyways.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:43 am to
quote:

I had no idea this was a thing


It's not.

It's "I'm your huckleberry". There's no debate whatsoever.

Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15759 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 10:13 am to
Didn’t know it was possible to post a bad thread about Tombstone. And yet here we are.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32711 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 10:35 am to
quote:

They had trouble translating a script that a guy from Detroit wrote?

Translating to paper, not from a foreign language.

Don't be obtuse.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 10:45 am to
quote:

"I'm your huckleberry" theoretically means I'm the right man for the job.

"I'm your huckle bearer" means I am your pallbearer which makes 100x more sense coming from a man who is there to kill you.


Technically, there is no reason for Doc to carry Ringo's casket. They aren't friends or family and have an antagonistic relationship.

However, Doc is the person volunteering for a gun fight with Ringo.

So it's clearly, "I'm your huckleberry."
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 10:46 am
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