re: Wheel of Time - Season 1 - Amazon - NOW A BOOK READERS THREAD

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Edit: After watching most of episode 4, I'm out. The changes are just too much IMO.

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I just finished E4 as well and they have veered WAY OFF from the book. Still... SPOILERS INCOMING



The overall story they are telling seems to be the same but they are changing up how they get from the beginning to the end. That's simply something we're all going to have to get used to. It didn't work that well for GoT and will likely fail here as well but I'm going to stay hopeful (but still bitch about the things that don't work).

They did a decent job of doing a mild intro of some of the Ajahs with setting the Reds at one extreme, the Blues at the other and the Greens in the middle. I think this is a smart idea for the non-readers instead of trying to introduce all the Ajahs at once.

The show looks to want to set up a guessing game among the non-readers as to who the Dragon Reborn really is. I don't know if this is a smart move or not. I will give them this though, their setup and representation of Nynaeve's power was well done for the story they are telling. Logain was powerful enough to break out of the shielding being done by two Aes Sedai and Nynaeve was able to bitch-slap him (thus putting her well above the Aes Sedai present).

There are serious problems here though. The first is that the Aes Sedai would block his access to the One Power itself, not just hold it in a shield with him. The next is their scenario with Nynaeve completely ignores how the woman is supposed to be moving with Saidar. Nynaeve's actions came across as forcing Saidar.

Also, men and woman can't see each other's side of the One Power so how did Logain see her glowing?

And finally... I will have to re-read the first book to make sure my impression is right but I seem to remember getting the feel from Lan that he was more of an always-intense and quiet character. They've either cut way back on that or I am seriously mis-remembering him. If the former, I hate it. If the latter, that's my fault.

This is large elements of the book but changed significantly to appeal to non-readers (and, in some cases, relies on their ignorance). Only time will tell if it works.

I don't think Jordan would approve, at least not of the plot holes in how Saidin and Saidar work.

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It's way more difficult to shield someone already holding the one power. The more they're holding the more difficult it is. This is book accurate.

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They had seven Aes Sedai, how many did it take to shield him in the book?

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Nynaeve's actions came across as forcing Saidar.

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That's exactly what she did. This is book accurate.

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She's extremely powerful but I don't think she was ever powerful enough to force Saidar to heal everyone in the room. Such an effort would have taxed her at her best (since the more you fought Saidar the tougher it was to control) thus not leaving her enough strength to smack Logain.

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Men can tell when a woman is channeling. Women cannot tell when a man is channeling.

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I really need to re-read.

Count on Amazon to force in a gay/bi warder campfire scene for no reason at all.

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Count on a closeted homosexual to get freaked out about something like that in 2021.

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What did it add to the story?

Be specific.

That bit was obnoxious, but whatever. It's pretty low on the problems with this show through four episodes.

Enjoying the series but still getting a kick out of every scene looking like a UN meeting.

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The gay/bi warder stuff introduced now may make the Rand polyamory less objectionable to audiences later

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So they're peppering the show with gay/bi normative scenes but will end with Jordan's multiple women hetero wish fulfillment?



The smart money is that they'll pair two of them off into a lesbian relationship and the other will eventually reject him because he still has feelings for the other two. Instead of lighting his pipe at the end, he'll be riding out alone and dejected.

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Now stop being a little bitch.

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You first.

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The gay/bi warder stuff introduced now may make the Rand polyamory less objectionable to audiences later

There. Narrative reason for including it. Now stop being a little bitch.

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Except Rafe has specifically said the polyamory stuff is being cut.

Try again.

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What did it add to the story?

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Besides giving us a deeper sense of the morals and attitudes of this world? Could we be establishing a healthy, accepting community to contrast with the dogmatic whitecloacks, not to mention with the warder-less, bitch red ajah?

Why did Jordan include multiple warders for green ajah in the books? This is such a surface, idiotic bone to pick with a show. Jordan was all about male wish-fulfilment as a writer, and he added ridiculous sex scenarios to his series for no good reason. So far, the show has handled this part of Jordan's writing pretty well just by scaling it way back.

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100% how i had Liandrin seem and feel

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I always imagined Liandrin as being hot … evil, but hot. Jordan described her as pretty with a face bearing doll-like features and a rosebud mouth.

With that odd chipmunk-cheek jawline, this actress is not doll-like or hot at all.