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re: Wheel of Time - Season 1 - ABSOLUTELY NO BOOK READERS AT ALL

Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:22 am to
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:22 am to
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Y'all are worse than vegans


DWI
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:46 am to
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You just can't help yourself can you? No need to bring up reading anything in this thread regardless of any spoiler or whatever. Y'all are worse than vegans


It sucks as I’d like to discuss the show but as a non-reader don’t want to get spoiled.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:50 am to
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if book readers want to shite spoilers all over this one, what are you gonna do to stop it???


You could get RA'd, and the Admins have a history of not wanting to deal with petty bickering over a TV show so they just drop the hammer on you to make the bickering go away.

Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:34 pm to
I noticed one of the Aes Sedai strait up wearing a hijab in this episode.

Does this fictional world have Islam?

For a world with seemingly no advanced travel, it clearly and inexplicably has no ethnic cohesion AT ALL. But it now also seems to have religious garb from outside universes.

Show runners really don’t give AF
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:03 pm to
Jesus Christ.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:15 pm to
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For a world with seemingly no advanced travel, it clearly and inexplicably has no ethnic cohesion AT ALL. But it now also seems to have religious garb from outside universes.

Best not to think about all this too much.

Distinct ethnicities would not exist in perpetuity. Let's pretend some apocalypse threw us back into the Bronze Age in technology. For a short period of time, you'd still see Blacks, Whites, Asians and Hispanics etc in North America; within a number of generations you'd start to see a blend. They seem to say the last dragon broke the world a thousand years ago or so... by then people would generally look similar, some would be a bit darker, some might have a hint of Asian features etc. But unless you had a group isolate ethnically for a long time, you wouldn't see much difference across the board.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:35 pm to
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Jesus Christ.


Do his followers make an appearance too?
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:42 pm to
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Distinct ethnicities would not exist in perpetuity. Let's pretend some apocalypse threw us back into the Bronze Age in technology. For a short period of time, you'd still see Blacks, Whites, Asians and Hispanics etc in North America; within a number of generations you'd start to see a blend. They seem to say the last dragon broke the world a thousand years ago or so... by then people would generally look similar, some would be a bit darker, some might have a hint of Asian features etc. But unless you had a group isolate ethnically for a long time, you wouldn't see much difference across the board.


That doesn’t really help the argument. You’d either have no ethnic variation or regional ethnic variation. What you wouldn’t have were vast, distinct, ethnicities persisting intermingled through various communal structures. Like a small Asian family in a mountain town where the innkeeper and his family are Indian and the towns folk are a mix of Irish and Peruvian lol.

It fails to reason unless you actively ignore it. And it’s bad filmmaking to give the audience things that they have to actively ignore.

The hijab thing is just ludicrous. Imagine if In Star Wars one of the Jedi just straight up had a Star of David.

Also Star Wars seemingly understands this to some extent as the more primitive a planet is the more homogeneous the race of beings on it is. It adds to and informs a story.

World building requires attention to detail for, you know, the way worlds are built.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 8:04 am to
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Like a small Asian family in a mountain town where the innkeeper and his family are Indian and the towns folk are a mix of Irish and Peruvian lol.


When the casting came out, people fell over themselves defending it based on physical attributes for characters that were described in fleeting detail. The only thing that's stuck out to me about different groups of people is that accents and dialect are a clear way to identify someone's nationality, and hairstyles/clothing a little less so.

That makes sense if you accept the idea that most races have interbred so much that everyone is starting to look alike, but they've definitely failed to do that with the 2 rivers cast. They're almost all supposed to look alike.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 8:05 am to
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Does this fictional world have Islam?


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But it now also seems to have religious garb from outside universes.


Don't pull that thread.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Does this fictional world have Islam?


No.

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I noticed one of the Aes Sedai strait up wearing a hijab in this episode.



There is no religious mandate for an Aes Sedai to cover her head in this world, so an Aes Sedai wearing something like that would be simply a personal fashion choice.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:37 pm to
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Jesus Christ.


Do his followers make an appearance too?


The white cloak folks who are portrayed as extremists executing all of the witches/Aes Sedai.
Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:49 pm to
Maybe in this other world people learned to build articles of clothing that covered their head to protect them from the sun and are not necessarily worshiping mohommad?
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:24 pm to
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Maybe in this other world people learned to build articles of clothing that covered their head to protect them from the sun and are not necessarily worshiping mohommad?


Why would the darkest skinned woman, with the darkest hair, be covering her hair and not her face (which is the thing that actually needs sun protection) in a full on forest environment when no one else is? And doing so with something that is literally a hijab.

But sure, bend over backwards to defend an absurd thing




“Sun protection”
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:32 pm
Posted by PhineasFreakaZoid
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:45 pm to

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Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:08 pm to
I mean, is a head covering necessarily muslim? They were created long before Islam was founded, centuries even, for fashion and protection from the sun. I think it's a little nit picky to claim they are trying to say this woman is a muslim when muslims didn't even invent the fricking headscarf.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:20 pm to
We need something to discuss until Friday. Why not this?

I noticed the highly diverse town folk in the first episode, rolled my eyes, and then forget about it as I wasn’t going to let Hollywood’s virtue signaling ruin the show.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:21 pm to
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I mean, is a head covering necessarily muslim?


Of course it is. Just look at all the Islam radiating from this chick!

Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:34 pm to
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I mean, is a head covering necessarily muslim? They were created long before Islam was founded, centuries even, for fashion and protection from the sun. I think it's a little nit picky to claim they are trying to say this woman is a muslim when muslims didn't even invent the fricking headscarf.


Please just look at that image and for one second.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:35 pm to
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Why would the darkest skinned woman, with the darkest hair, be covering her hair and not her face (which is the thing that actually needs sun protection) in a full on forest environment when no one else is? And doing so with something that is literally a hijab.

But sure, bend over backwards to defend an absurd thing


Just stating that its a head covering is a pretty simple argument. You're the only one working hard to make an dumb argument that literally no one agrees with.
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