re: Westworld SE1 EP6: The Adversary

Yea, they've gotten to the point that she is able to wake up on her own and remember things. They've probably come to the conclusion that shutting her down won't work.

Song of the week, Fake Plastic Trees.

Fitting for this show

This jumped out to me as well. It's the second time Bernard is questioning Ford specificly and Ford redirects him with almost the same exact line about seeing his son again if he had the chance.

Bernard, almost immediately ceases his questioning and leaves the room.

This has been the 3rd time Ford has uses Bernards son to redirect him

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Bernard, almost immediately ceases his questioning and leaves the room.

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It was interesting, that's for sure. But you'd figure if it was some sort of host control on Bernard (if he is a host), he wouldn't have gone to Theresa to report what he saw about Ford. Which it looked like he was doing before getting the call from Elise.

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Song of the week, Fake Plastic Trees.

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Thank you! first one I could not figure out.

If that's the allusion they're making, then I'd think it would most likely be referring to Theresa. The episode established that she is the one (or one of the ones) fricking with Ford's world (Ford being the clear "god" character in the show). And Bernard's entire arc this episode essentially walked us through the set up for an upcoming fight between Ford and Theresa/the board (side note, it's possible that the new chick they brought in from the board will end up being the ultimate antagonist to Ford, but Theresa would be her proxy at worst so let's stick with Theresa for now).

She's got whatever motive she has to steal data/hack into the hosts (potentially making them intentionally malfunction so that complete control transfers to QA) and Ford wants desperately to maintain his position as god but realizes for the first time that he may be loosing control of his creations. He'll need to figure out why and will surely try to stop it. Bernard is being set up to be the innocent child in this divorce and he has no clue who the frick to trust (minus Elsie, but it's not looking great for her, setting Bernard up to potentially walk the line between god and devil alone).

So if Bernard is the human caught in the conflict between god and the devil in this hypothetical, how appropriate of a spin would it be to make Bernard the only non-human (i.e., host) in the whole ordeal.

Of course that could also all be just a bunch of bullshite if "The Adversary" holds any of its many other possible meanings. It sure does make this show fun to speculate on however



EDIT: Just reread your message after posting and misread it originally. I read "sympathetic protagonist" to be "sympathetic pragmatist" and went off of that definition knowing only the bare minimum about Paradise Lost. I'm having a tough time finding any sort of protagonist qualities in Theresa so I'm not sure this theory holds. But I still think she is sabotaging the hosts so that control transfers to QA. I feel like she said something in episode 1 or 2 along the lines of "they're only yours until they malfunction" to Ford.

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Surely it's been mentioned that "The Adversary" is the literal translation of "Satan."

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I made mention of it on page 1 of this thread.

I really think the conflict will ultimately be between Ford (God) and Arnold (Satan). Remember, according to the Bible, God created and wanted people to be ignorant of the world (Ford's desires for the hosts) while the devil gave people knowledge of good and evil (Arnold's desire to give the hosts consciousness).

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In other news, Thandie Newton has some serious Nat Geo style tits & nips.

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Ha. Give the lady some credit, she just celebrated her 44th birthday yesterday and has had three kids.

It's a good thing Ford "just happened" to be at that cabin in the middle of nowhere or else Bernard would have got choked out.