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Westworld: S2 E6: Phase Space
Posted on 5/27/18 at 10:07 am
Posted on 5/27/18 at 10:07 am
Posted on 5/27/18 at 7:02 pm to prplhze2000
Looks like we got some more Elsie and MIB. Should be more interesting than last week.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 9:00 pm to prplhze2000
That beginning. Wtf? Ford testing Bernard???
Posted on 5/27/18 at 9:03 pm to ell_13
Hate to say it but most of it was boring. Last 30 seconds were the prize though
Posted on 5/27/18 at 9:06 pm to prplhze2000
Not there yet. They just nail gunned Abernathy
Posted on 5/27/18 at 9:13 pm to ell_13
Yup. Made me feel even less sorry for them
Posted on 5/27/18 at 9:15 pm to prplhze2000
Next week looks really promising.
Felt bad for ole baw in the train.
Felt bad for ole baw in the train.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 9:20 pm to prplhze2000
The Shogun World stuff is pointless and at times cringeworthy
Posted on 5/27/18 at 9:21 pm to prplhze2000
I knew Hopkins would make a cameo, called it.
Was that really him? Or just a look alike?
Was that really him? Or just a look alike?
Posted on 5/27/18 at 9:35 pm to JonTigerFan11
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Shogun World stuff is pointless and at times cringeworthy
Yeah.....
But the sword fight ending in dismemberment and seppuku was kinda cool.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 10:04 pm to beerJeep
Honestly don't even really want to watch. Can someone just spoil for me?
Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:22 pm to prplhze2000
There’s barely any posts in here compared to what there usually is. I guess a lot of people finally gave up on it.
Posted on 5/27/18 at 11:51 pm to prplhze2000
Hello, old friend.
I always thought that Ford had uploaded himself and was a ghost in the machine in the parks' systems and left more than just programming behind. I guess they answered the question of whose red pearl Bernard was sent to the secret lab to get. Since Ford seems to be interacting and thinking and conscious inside the Cradle instead of being stored just waiting to be turned back on, is the cognitive plateau problem still around and has Ford managed to solve it? Does that even exist inside The Cradle?
I always thought that Ford had uploaded himself and was a ghost in the machine in the parks' systems and left more than just programming behind. I guess they answered the question of whose red pearl Bernard was sent to the secret lab to get. Since Ford seems to be interacting and thinking and conscious inside the Cradle instead of being stored just waiting to be turned back on, is the cognitive plateau problem still around and has Ford managed to solve it? Does that even exist inside The Cradle?
This post was edited on 5/27/18 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:06 am to TigerstuckinMS
After the opening and ending scenes, I'm even moreso confused/entertained.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:11 am to 1BamaRTR
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There’s barely any posts in here compared to what there usually is. I guess a lot of people finally gave up on it.
It’s Memorial Day weekend and there was a huge NBA game 7 on tonight.
I just finished and thought the episode was awesome and the previews got me so hype for the last two episodes
Posted on 5/28/18 at 1:06 am to TigerstuckinMS
My interpretation after this episode is that Ford had Bernard print the red pearl of Ford, which was then used to upload Ford's mind into the mainframe.
What I'm still unsure of is Ford's plan in the long run. Ford never talked in season1 as if he was tired and old or tired of his passion with WW, yet made the comment about "becoming music". So. I think he set the Dolores story into motion in episode 10, which would mean the death of himself, but with his mind backed up on the mainframe, he may have also planned to reprint his body and mind in the future. Regardless, Ford can obviously still pull strings(maybe even more so) now that his mind is on the Delos network and the only difference is that he no longer has a physical entity present.
The cognitive plateau is what happens when you put a digital scan of a human mind back into a host body. We haven't been given much background on all of this yet, but from what we have seen it's safe to say that no degradation occurs in virtual reality/cradle.
I'm also thinking the title is referencing the virtual reality that exist in the cradle. I had always assumed that any data that they were storing on a mainframe in terms of host minds/Ford/human minds was static and needed the right hardware and OS to emulate a human, but it seems that this virtual world allows backed up minds to interact as if it they were in the physical world. It would also make sense for Delos to have something like this in order to let loops/storylines play out and get a probability distribution of outcomes/behavior. The one time I heard phase space before was in quantum mechanics but I'm still trying to make sense of that relationship.
EDIT: the more I think about what Delos had going on in the cradle, the more I think about the idea I read a while back about the possibility of humanity living in a simulation, or the possibility of an advanced civilization being able to create a simulation of the universe, which after some time leads to a civilization in first simulation becoming advanced enough to create a simulation of their own, and so on and so forth. If Delos was having loops/storylines play out to determine outcomes/behavior, they are pretty much creating a quasi-infinite universes situation where every possible version of something exists, in this case, the park being the "universe"
What I'm still unsure of is Ford's plan in the long run. Ford never talked in season1 as if he was tired and old or tired of his passion with WW, yet made the comment about "becoming music". So. I think he set the Dolores story into motion in episode 10, which would mean the death of himself, but with his mind backed up on the mainframe, he may have also planned to reprint his body and mind in the future. Regardless, Ford can obviously still pull strings(maybe even more so) now that his mind is on the Delos network and the only difference is that he no longer has a physical entity present.
The cognitive plateau is what happens when you put a digital scan of a human mind back into a host body. We haven't been given much background on all of this yet, but from what we have seen it's safe to say that no degradation occurs in virtual reality/cradle.
I'm also thinking the title is referencing the virtual reality that exist in the cradle. I had always assumed that any data that they were storing on a mainframe in terms of host minds/Ford/human minds was static and needed the right hardware and OS to emulate a human, but it seems that this virtual world allows backed up minds to interact as if it they were in the physical world. It would also make sense for Delos to have something like this in order to let loops/storylines play out and get a probability distribution of outcomes/behavior. The one time I heard phase space before was in quantum mechanics but I'm still trying to make sense of that relationship.
EDIT: the more I think about what Delos had going on in the cradle, the more I think about the idea I read a while back about the possibility of humanity living in a simulation, or the possibility of an advanced civilization being able to create a simulation of the universe, which after some time leads to a civilization in first simulation becoming advanced enough to create a simulation of their own, and so on and so forth. If Delos was having loops/storylines play out to determine outcomes/behavior, they are pretty much creating a quasi-infinite universes situation where every possible version of something exists, in this case, the park being the "universe"
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 1:17 am
Posted on 5/28/18 at 1:30 am to prplhze2000
Every Shogun World scene was utterly pointless. The one cool thing was the Japanese instrumental version of Paint It Black
Posted on 5/28/18 at 1:40 am to wildtigercat93
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I just finished and thought the episode was awesome and the previews got me so hype for the last two episodes
There are four episodes left. 10 episode season.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:47 am to TigerstuckinMS
Anyone else thinking Ford was a host as well before being shot?
We know now that he obviously has his mind copied now and the fact that he used to control all the hosts with just his mind would be impossible for someone without a “signal” or something of that sort. Similar to Maeve
We know now that he obviously has his mind copied now and the fact that he used to control all the hosts with just his mind would be impossible for someone without a “signal” or something of that sort. Similar to Maeve
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