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re: Umbrella Academy Season 3 **Official Discussion**
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:20 am to BaddestAndvari
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:20 am to BaddestAndvari
I'm enjoying S3, but there are 2 big issues which I find annoying.
Sure, the Vanya/Viktor thing is one, but even that could have been done better. I like (sorta) how they at least tried to give the character some motivation, some reason for the change. But to the rest of the siblings, the explanation given and their reaction to it was really flat. " Yeah, sure. Good for you." They just lost a sister they'd known all their lives and now ... ? No one would react like that. Not even in that family.
And Allison's irrational reaction to her daughter being "MIA". Everything about this timeline is clearly different, yet she's fully expecting HER life to be unaffected? That's weak writing.
Sure, the Vanya/Viktor thing is one, but even that could have been done better. I like (sorta) how they at least tried to give the character some motivation, some reason for the change. But to the rest of the siblings, the explanation given and their reaction to it was really flat. " Yeah, sure. Good for you." They just lost a sister they'd known all their lives and now ... ? No one would react like that. Not even in that family.
And Allison's irrational reaction to her daughter being "MIA". Everything about this timeline is clearly different, yet she's fully expecting HER life to be unaffected? That's weak writing.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 6:38 am
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:11 am to carrguitar
I’m in episode 2 and I am so sick of this straight white male preaching to me. frick this skinny piece of shite trying to oppress me.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 11:11 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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And Allison's irrational reaction to her daughter being "MIA". Everything about this timeline is clearly different, yet she's fully expecting HER life to be unaffected? That's weak writing.
She lived a life with a husband and daughter and now its gone like it never existed. I would expect that to have an effect on someone.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:08 pm to Havoc
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It was already so close to going over the edge of left-shock overpowering the story line
No, it went way over. The series had great promise, but I couldn't get past the subliminal messaging.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:04 pm to illuminatic
She’s acting as if she’s the only one that’s ever lost anything. I think her understanding of the situation is lacking. She already had a daughter before she met her husband back in time. She knows right away that’s gonna be a problem anyway she cuts it. Her main focus should be trying to get back to her own timeline. Instead she’s moping about as if she’s the only one who matters. It’s insanely selfish & short sighted.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:49 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
The show is about dysfunctional and selfish people being forced to work together in situations that require them to. None of them want to be there or with each other. In regards to Allison specifically, they've been showing the cracks in her facade all season. It's called a character arc.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:01 pm to illuminatic
Character arc? Hell, Viktor's arc is more interesting. Allison's comes off more as fanfic, and poorly written at that. Her goofy antics are what's putting the whole of existence into peril, because she's irrationally so short sighted.
It doesn't make sense that she'd overreact as she does. It's just written in that way so the show can have some manufactured drama. Because 'reasons', so things can happen.
It's lazy. But I'm glad someone is enjoying it.
It doesn't make sense that she'd overreact as she does. It's just written in that way so the show can have some manufactured drama. Because 'reasons', so things can happen.
It's lazy. But I'm glad someone is enjoying it.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:35 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Her goofy antics are what's putting the whole of existence into peril, because she's irrationally so short sighted.
It doesn't make sense that she'd overreact as she does.
She's a woman that feels like she was denied something she wanted. Sounds pretty realistic to me from my experiences.
If Allison was the stoic, logical leader holding everyone together this season, you'd complain about typical Hollywood shenanigans propping up the female characters again.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:51 pm to illuminatic
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She's a woman that feels like she was denied something she wanted. Sounds pretty realistic to me from my experiences. If Allison was the stoic, logical leader holding everyone together this season, you'd complain about typical Hollywood shenanigans propping up the female characters again.
The Academy kids of all people should know that there are consequences with dabbling in time. Hell, they’ve witnessed how many apocalypses already? And now she’s worried about her own little life? Humanity seems to be on the brink once again and she just wants to go back home. Boohoo.
They don’t focus on what’s happening around them then nobody gets to go home to their families. But she’s special? Frick this show.
I guess if they wanted to go out of their way to draw attention away from Viktor /Vanya, they succeeded
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/25/22 at 5:04 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Bro, you have to be on the spectrum. The show is about reluctant superheroes that just want to be normal. They keep getting into these ridiculous apocalyptic scenarios while juggling trivial personal problems. You are arguing against the foundation of the show. It's like being annoyed that the characters on Shameless are trashy. That's the show!
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:05 pm to illuminatic
You have a problem distinguishing between feeling sad and mopey versus putting things into perspective.
They all seem to have their little issues, but hers is distracting her from getting everybody back to where they’re supposed to be
They all seem to have their little issues, but hers is distracting her from getting everybody back to where they’re supposed to be
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 6:38 am
Posted on 6/25/22 at 9:42 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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And Allison's irrational reaction to her daughter being "MIA". Everything about this timeline is clearly different, yet she's fully expecting HER life to be unaffected? That's weak writing.
Allison has never been my favorite character... But, tell us you aren't a parent without telling us you aren't a parent.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:21 pm to BaddestAndvari
What’s funny is I love Claus as a character and I hate Vanya/Victor and Allison arcs. I still love the show because it’s so weird and has some great visuals and scenes.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:24 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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Count me out. I'll read the comments here. It already sounds like shite.
The very best part of this show will be reading about it here.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:32 pm to BaddestAndvari
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Allison has never been my favorite character... But, tell us you aren't a parent without telling us you aren't a parent.
Can the whole tell us you're something without telling us you're something thing stop?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 10:49 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I hate Vanya/Victor and Allison arcs
So far the white violin scenes have been ok. Allison continues to be the worst part of the show, she's insufferable and has been since season one. I cheered when she had her throat slashed in season 1 and was genuinely pissed when she was talking again in season 2. Season 3 has been absolutely horrible with her, I just got done with the episode where are tried to break up the white violin trying to learn how to get stronger... She is so insufferable
ETA: I love Number 5 (has always been my favorite character) but Klaus and Diego are quickly becoming equal. Klaus is absolutely phenomenal
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:34 am to illuminatic
The show was entertaining.
The trans stuff isn't blown out of proportion but they had more scenes on it that I would have put in. I think the first scene/reaction was great and they should have left it at that.
I could watch this show just to see Five, Klaus and NOW the smoke show Sloane.
The trans stuff isn't blown out of proportion but they had more scenes on it that I would have put in. I think the first scene/reaction was great and they should have left it at that.
I could watch this show just to see Five, Klaus and NOW the smoke show Sloane.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 6:51 am to BaddestAndvari
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But, tell us you aren't a parent...
Again, not the point. The 'rules' of how people normally feel ? They've witnessed a couple of apocalypses, and traveled in time.
Sorry, but she doesn't get the luxury of expecting HER life to be totally untouched and perfect when the rest of the world has been completely shuffled.
And her little temper tantrum resulting in the murder of Harlan? Where'd THAT come from? Vanya was the one who saved a little kid's life, and then (inexplicably) he's to blame for the snuffing out of all the academy kid's mothers. There was no intent on his part. He was given something he didn't ask for, then Vanya time jumps out of his life for 40 some years... Nope, Allison's arc makes zero sense. It's just whiney and destructive for the sake of the show needing some manufactured drama.
Yeah, it sucks that she's in a world where her daughter doesn't exist, but she HAS to understand that ALL of her siblings don't exist in that world either. It's not her world, thus she's got no right to feel sad. About anything. She can start to feel that way once they realize there's no going back, but that's not a known fact yet. Might not be. She needed to grow the hell up and stop being such a deranged diva.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 7:10 am to armsdealer
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The show was entertaining.
The trans stuff isn't blown out of proportion but they had more scenes on it that I would have put in. I think the first scene/reaction was great and they should have left it at that.
Agreed, but I still think there needed to be more for the siblings to go on. They just lost a sister, and didn't get any real explanation. Vanya knew, we're told, but even that seemed a bit of a stretch. She went from liking men to falling in love with Sissy... would Sissy feel the same for Viktor as she did Vanya?
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I could watch this show just to see Five, Klaus and NOW the smoke show Sloane
This.
5 and Klaus are driving the show, imo. Far more interesting. And Sloane is a welcome addition.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:26 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Using more words doesn't make you less wrong. Her reaction is illogical but realistic. Traumatic events make people act irrational. The entire Harlan subplot feels rushed and unearned but given the circumstances, her reaction doesn't seem farfetched
Edit: Also, idk how far into the season you are but if you take issue with Allsion being irrational, wait until you see how everyone else acts when faced with the end. Lol
Edit: Also, idk how far into the season you are but if you take issue with Allsion being irrational, wait until you see how everyone else acts when faced with the end. Lol
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 10:37 am
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