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re: True Detective Season One E2: "Seeing Things"

Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:41 am to
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:41 am to
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Woody's character keeps mentioning kids in the woods too.


I thought it was "girls in the woods"? I thought that was a reference to the whore compound that they described as being out in the woods?
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:44 am to
A poster on IMDB has made a list of clues from the two episodes: LINK

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This is just to note my thoughts so far about how the show is going to pan out, using the clues that we have been given so far, and to dispute some of the other theories floating around this forum. Feel free to correct me if I've missed something.

Rust Cohle's Life Prior to Murder Investigation
* Rust lost his daughter (Sophia), who was killed in the road outside his house
* He was transferred from Robbery to Narco, and started working 24/7
* His wife, Clare, left him
* He "emptied his gun" into a drug abuser, who was injecting his infant daughter with Meth, saying he was "trying to purify her"
* State Attorney got the charges against Rust dropped, but forced him to work undercover as a junkie, for any agency that needed a Narco. There was no end date for this post
* After four years (in Feb 1993), Rust killed 3 cartel men but was hit by 3 bullets
* Rust institutionalised at Northshore Psychiatric Hospital, Texas
* After this, Rust refused psychiatric pension and requested transfer to Homicide instead, which is how he ended up in Louisiana's Criminal Investigation Division

Murder Investigation (1995)
* Marty and Rust are assigned the murder case of Dora Lange in the first 3 months of their period working together
* They suspect that the disappearance of a girl named Fontenot is connected, particularly as a
* Neither Marty or Rust are the killer
* Marty's father-in-law is not the killer
* Marty's girls were NOT re-enacting a rape scene with their dolls. They were talking about children who had lost their parents in a car accident. It has not been revealed what this refers to
* Due to the Rust's lack of sleep, psychiatric problems and drugs provided by his informant/prostitute, he would frequently experience hallucinations. These stopped a few years after the investigation, once he was "clean"
* There was pressure on Marty and Rust's boss to make progress in the case. This may have lead to a hasty conviction
* Lisa, Marty's mistress, worked in some capacity at the court house, and had access to his department (she brings him legal papers in episode 1)
* Marty's wife, Maggie, introduced Rust to a woman called Lorrie who he nearly married
* The Sheriff Belson, the local sheriff to the trailer-brothel, possibly had contact with the murder victim. Thus, he could become a suspect
* The murder victim arrived at the brothel because of a bad relationship or abuse from her Uncle. The disabled man was the Uncle of the little girl who disappeared several years before, and a Devil Trap was found on his property. Thus, he could become a suspect
* The murder victim recently spent a lot of time at a church. Marty and Rust interviewed a Minister, played by Clarke Peters, in the first episode. I'd be VERY surprised if an actor of Peters' calibre is not significant to the story. Thus, he could become a suspect
* Marty and Rust fell out around 2002 and have not spoken since

Interviews (2012)
* Marty and Rust are being interviewed because their investigation lead to someone being convicted of the murder, but a murder with the same MO has happened recently (while the man is still in prison)
* Rust asks the detectives conducting the interviews whether they want to hear about "the place where we carried the kids out". The investigation may culminate to this event, where children are in danger or killed
* The detectives are gathering evidence to discover the real (or copy-cat) killer
* The detectives MAY be gathering evidence in order to hold either Marty or Rust accountable for the wrongful conviction, for legal or political (media) reasons. It currently appears that Rust is most likely to take the fall for this
* The detectives MAY suspect Rust of the recent murder, because some of the MO was not pulic knowledge, and because he has been "off the grid for 8 years"

Personal Thoughts / Summary
My main suspects for the killing are, first, the Minister (Clarke Peters), or, second, the disabled Uncle
They seem to be trying to pin the wrongful conviction on Rust. I am hoping that the interviews prove that Rust has superior insight into the case, and both Marty and Rust are re-assigned to the present-day case.


Of course, all this could be totally wrong! Any opinions or ideas are welcome. :)


Edits:

Today I found some very insightful posts in the "TV Recap" section of the Wall Street Journal blog at LINK by @MarshallCrook. The following points are of particular interest:

* As the blogger and people in this forum point out - the writer may have no interest in who-done-it stories, so the supposed killer could easily be someone we meet in the final episodes
* Rust's "faded memory of a town" observation is profound because all the flashbacks are Marty or Rust's recollections (we don't necessarily know which, at any given point) in the 2012 interviews. Thus, maybe they contain errors
* "'The King in Yellow' is a horror anthology written by Robert W. Chambers and published in 1895. The supernatural stories, and the characters within, are linked by a mysterious play, 'The King in Yellow'. Chambers only hints at the content of the play but when a character reads it he or she is driven insane with visions of a King in Yellow"
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 9:50 am
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:46 am to
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It's not the same guy. Coke sniffing accountant is John Kapelos, Chief is Kevin Dunn.


This is correct.Kevin Dunn was in the Seinfeld episode the week before though titled "Male Unbonding".
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:22 am to
I think when it is all said and done this might be McConaughey's greatest performance to date.

Dude absolutely kills it.

Harrelson is legit as well.
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 10:23 am
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68033 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:36 am to
im starting to fear that they will make rust the killer. when he says "i dont sleep, i dream" it makes me think he has some sort of dissociative personality disorder.

him getting so much shite right is him just remembering what he did as his other self

i really hope it's a red herring
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:38 am to
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m starting to fear that they will make rust the killer.


Too easy, no way.

At least I really hope not.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
13073 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:39 am to
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As the blogger and people in this forum point out - the writer may have no interest in who-done-it stories, so the supposed killer could easily be someone we meet in the final episodes


This is an important point that some people on this board have mentioned a few times. The case itself is secondary to the characters and their relationships.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:44 am to
Agreed, the actual crime may only serve to fuel the relationships between the characters, especially between both detectives.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:49 am to
there are some people on here who think otherwise
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:52 am to
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im starting to fear that they will make rust the killer. when he says "i dont sleep, i dream" it makes me think he has some sort of dissociative personality disorder.


that would be absolutely horrible

Posted by Carson123987
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:53 am to
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that would be absolutely horrible


i would cry


lets just hope it's all a big red herring
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 10:55 am
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
13073 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:54 am to
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Rust had a two year old that could ride a tricycle?


My 2-year old rides a tricycle.
Posted by Richard Castle
St. George, La.
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:54 am to
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im starting to fear that they will make rust the killer



I sure hope not.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33188 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:57 am to
How does the IMDB poster come to this conclusion?
quote:

* Neither Marty or Rust are the killer
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68033 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:58 am to
probably assuming hbo = good writing = main characters arent the killer
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:06 am to
It would be incredibility cheesy writing if Marty or Rust turn out to be the killer. Hopefully as we move forward this theory will be put to bed.
Posted by HappyTownTiger
Member since Jan 2012
1577 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:21 am to
I wonder if NP was inspired by the Jeff Davis 8 serial killer (still at large). Anyone heard this?
Posted by Carson123987
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68033 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:21 am to
no; explain
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:23 am to
I just can't see it happening.

Would suck arse and would be a cheap way out.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33188 posts
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:29 am to
Well yea, but you can't put it down as fact yet
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