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Roger Klarvin
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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
The heavy implication in the 2015 timeline has been that Tom died in 1990, so I assume he meets his end over this. It’s also the only thing he could do that would drive Roland and Wayne to actually kill him (given Roland and Tom’s friendship).


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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
Has anyone discussed ( maybe in other threads ) how Wayne has said he’s never read the whole book that his wife wrote , he said that again on tonight’s episode.
Seems that will come into play .


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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
This season is outstanding.
I'm really hooked. Can't wait for next week


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Walt OReilly
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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
What an episode!


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sounds like Harris tasers Tom about 5 seconds after the credits start rolling. I went back and listened and it does.


It sure does.
This post was edited on 2/11 at 12:28 am


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JesusQuintana
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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
This is all correct of course, but the one thing that is still odd is why was the boy killed? I don’t think it was planned. Perhaps he tried to save his sister (they were close). Why the pose? Conceivable it was purely a distraction for investigators, but they easily could have removed the body. It does seem that his sister does not know he was dead, which if he had been killed trying to intervene in her abduction she probably would.

I almost wonder if the incidents with both children were not related. Perhaps Tom has run afoul of the church somehow related to him being gay?

The boys body being left ritualistically doesn’t seem to jive with the “he was killed trying to defend her” angle.


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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
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The heavy implication in the 2015 timeline has been that Tom died in 1990, so I assume he meets his end over this. It’s also the only thing he could do that would drive Roland and Wayne to actually kill him (given Roland and Tom’s friendship


Tom completely screwed the case up by not going to Roland and Wayne with the information he got from Dan. I think you’re right about black guy with mixed eyes being the one that kills Dan.


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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
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This is all correct of course, but the one thing that is still odd is why was the boy killed? I don’t think it was planned. Perhaps he tried to save his sister (they were close). Why the pose?


A jagged rock with the boy’s blood was found near the scene in the woods where the games and other evidence were discovered. The boy could have easily tripped and hit his head on the rock given the terrain, location, and shape of the rock.

The brother was seen in the area looking for his sister, presumably after she had been kidnapped. I think the boy’s death was an accident. He was placed in a peaceful pose postmortem with care, not as part of a ritualistic death connected to the kidnapping.

I think he was used to get his sister to an isolated location. Whoever they were meeting with was probably starting to groom the sister ahead of her abduction.

The brother was never supposed to be harmed, and his death was an accident.


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Roger Klarvin
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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
It was all a misdirection. They left him like that with the dolls to make it look sadistic/ritualistic.

It’s unlikely they meant to kill him going into it, but once they did they used it to throw off the authorities.


JesusQuintana
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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
It’s possible, but it all seems rather obvious if that’s the case...and again it was alluded to that she wasn’t aware he was dead. If he was killed during her abduction then she should have known, but I suppose it’s plausible that she was brainwashed through the years of abuse.


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wmr
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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
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I don't think so. I think Harris James has a history with Tom being they are both gay. Harris told Hayes that he had a good body. Maybe that is how he was able to get the boy's backpack to plant at Woodard's.



I'm hating that I am feeling like maybe Roland is complicit in some of the cover-up. I also am starting to buy into the Reddit theories that Roland might be bi-sexual, and possibly involved with Tom at some point.

I keep thinking about that night Tom spent on his couch after getting into the bar fight in 1980. Also, the fact that Roland never married and has no kids....



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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
Also, a popular WM3 theory is that the kids witnessed on of their fathers engaged in gay sex acts with other men in the wooded area that they played (which was behind a truck stop).

It seems to be well-known in West Finger that Devil's Den was a gay-hookup spot. That could be a red herring, but I think the gay angle is going to yield some more clues.


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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
I think the man with the milky eye killed the boy on accident during the abduction, judging from his scene in the bookstore. He placed the dolls as a trail to lead to the discovery of the body as an act of contrition.


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SlowFlowPro
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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
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People are going to be REALLY disappointed when it isn’t done huge pedophile ring connected to season 1.

it seems like a rich family concocted a way to have a surrogate child more than a pedo ring

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The Hoyt family paid Julie’s mom to give her to them to replace the dead granddaughter, and then killed her in 1988 fir wanting more to stay quiet. The one eyed black guy in this episode was the one seen driving around in the sedan in 1980 with a white woman, presumably the Hoyt daughter who lost her kid. The cop who is now head of Hoyt security helped cover it up by planting evidence in 1980 and was killed in 1990 by Wayne and Roland, presumably after they find out about his involvement and that he killed Tom. We can assume that Hoyt has the cousin killed in 1990 for talking.

yup. that's basically where we're at


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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
Does anybody think Roland was involved in the original coverup (thus his promotion) and when Hays found out that led to them not talking for 25 years.


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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
i think Hays and his strange morality/justifications gets Roland to participate in killing somebody (likely either Dan the cousin or the former crooked cop) and that sours their relationship


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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
Basically what I posted 2 weeks ago.


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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
i haven't been following spoilers or projected spoilers because i wasn't going to get wrapped up (only to be let down) like season 1

the board should thank me


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Rhames
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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
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Does anybody think Roland was involved in the original coverup (thus his promotion) and when Hays found out that led to them not talking for 25 years



No. I think he was just cool with them putting it on Woodard and didn't press them like Hayes




Also I'm pretty convinced Becca dies at a young age. When Hayes was looking on and watching young Henry and Amelia planting flowers was strange Becca was not there.


ruzil
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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
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Also I'm pretty convinced Becca dies at a young age.


Doesn't Hays' son say that Becca lives in CA and doesn't ever want to come back home when Hays asks about her at a family dinner?

Maybe his son is just placating a fading father's faulty memory?


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re: True Detective S3E6 - Hunters in the Dark
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Doesn't Hays' son say that Becca lives in CA and doesn't ever want to come back home when Hays asks about her at a family dinner? 

Maybe his son is just placating a fading father's faulty memory?






I think that's exactly what he is doing. He doesn't want to put his father through that pain over and over again.


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