re: True Detective: S2E8 "Omega Station" (Spoilers)

My guess is he was worried about them knowing where his kid went to school and would use that against him

He wanted to take care of things to protect his son


Eta: did the bad white cop hurt his arm in the train station? I saw the sling but couldn't remember why he was hurt

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but they also had a grave for him...

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Yea, then he said "I have a million dollars in the suitcase"...other Mexican guy sees it and they nod...everyone goes in directions back to their cars and no one is interested in Frank anymore. It wasn't until he asked for a ride back.

This is part of my problem with this show...no one has ANY IDEA of what would have really happened. You can act like they were definitely going to kill him, but I 100% disagree. They're low time gangsters (well maybe, we don't really know because the show did a TERRIBLE job of setting their storyline up) trying to make moves. Them getting a million dollars was a business decision. They may have thought he wouldn't be able to walk out of the desert so there was a strong possibility he would die, but they wouldn't just put a bullet in his brain. They definitely made a grave to kill him, and said go lay in it...but so what? Things change, the money changed that scenario. They tried to pull him off of the guy, and he wouldn't get up, so he got stabbed. I think even if they pull him off of the guy, the head Mexican would have told him hombre to calm down and they would STILL leave.

Everything until that point set Frank up as a guy who gets the last laugh...no matter what. He talked constantly about not going out a certain way, and he didn't live his life for nothing. Well, dying over a suit in the desert by a Mexican gangbanger while your wife waits for you in another country is EXACTLY dying for nothing.

Casper had dildos and sex swings


And it turns out he was doing that shite with his illegitimate daughter


Gross

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They definitely made a grave to kill him, and said go lay in it...but so what?

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I mean...pretty sure that is a good indication that they weren't about to give him a ride home

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They tried to pull him off of the guy, and he wouldn't get up, so he got stabbed.

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uh no...he got stabbed immediately

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Well, dying over a suit in the desert by a Mexican gangbanger while your wife waits for you in another country is EXACTLY dying for nothing.

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He still had his pride, which was obviously important to him.

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Tony didn't tail Frank............where are you guys get this? That was the Mexican Kingpin.

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It was already brought up in this thread by Salmon, but the Mexicans were apparently working for Tony. When he was being introduced as the new mayor, the 2 Mexicans leaders were standing next to him on the podium.

Now, could the Armenians have sold him out? Sure. Do we know? Nope. Could the Mexicans in the following year or so just become close and tight with Tony? Yea, but don't know. Either the Armenians sold Frank out to the Mexicans or Tony wanted the Mexicans to kill Frank because he crushed all the Russians...because the Russians were tight with Tony, Blake told us this.

I don't think the suit was as much of an issue as the $3.5 million worth of diamonds in it

Those should have been keistered

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but I think him not giving up his suit fits his character 100%

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for sure

A) Frank is prideful to his detriment
B) The diamonds were in there

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He was willing to let the Russians come in his club and embarrass him all while he stayed calm sipping Vodka and devising a plan

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what plan could he have come up with? He'd be completely out of money and diamonds and be left in the middle of the desert. At this point, he has to leave. There is no other option. He realized that wasn't going to be able to happen, and said frick it, you're not taking my suit (and pride) if I'm either going to A) get shot in the head or B) left to die in the desert.

This season really underwhelmed

- last season was overrated, but at least it pulled off the weird / interesting factor

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Ok, but not giving him a ride is not sure death

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It's pretty damn close

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Uh no...he hit the guy, we then get a shot of all the Mexicans running towards them and grabbing them while they fall, then we get a shot of underneath Frank while he is hitting him or strangling him, then a guy stabs him. It's hardly immediately.

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dude he stabs him as soon as he gets to Frank.

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Because being humiliated in public by Russians was so prideful to Frank

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he burned the club down. The suit thing was a combo of pride and not wanting to give the diamonds up. There was no plan left that was feasible.

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but not giving him a ride is not sure death

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its not assured

all I know is that they brought him out to the desert and had a grave dug for him

I don't think they had his best interests in mind

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Because being humiliated in public by Russians was so prideful to Frank

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I already explained this, but Frank had the upper hand then, he knew they were coming and had already things in place for his revenge

Frank had nothing in this case, he offered the money, but that didn't do anything, I guess he didn't think offering the diamonds would do anything either, all he had left was his pride